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Thoughts on this 69?

Started by PrisonHack, December 18, 2016, 10:04:11 AM

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BrianShaughnessy

69 with bench seat?   ::)

Well... it's a start for somebody.   I've seen worse.
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comet_666

8K for a body that will need at least 20K of work? hmmmm

PrisonHack

  Yeah seemed a bit higher to me, I emailed him for more pictures but haven't heard anything yet

hemi-hampton

If I lived in Texas I'd be looking for & buying a more Solid rustfree Texas car. That car looks more like a typical Michigan or northern rust bucket car. why do people in south buy & bring down northern rust buckets, I thought it went the other way, we in the north bring them up from the south? LEON.

PrisonHack

  I'm not in Texas, but I'm only about 10 hours north of a Houston in Arkansas. Finding a 2nd gen charger for sales under 10k is as rare as hens teeth from what I've seen. Does look pretty rough though.

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$2,000



Wonder what he paid for it, then dragged home and realized he'd overpaid for junk?  :Twocents:

hemi-hampton

Quote from: PrisonHack on December 18, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
  I'm not in Texas, but I'm only about 10 hours north of a Houston in Arkansas. Finding a 2nd gen charger for sales under 10k is as rare as hens teeth from what I've seen. Does look pretty rough though.

Was kinda talking to the guy selling it in Dallas Craigslist that said he just bought it. I'll rephrase my question. Why would anybody in any southern state sout east or south west  or south buy a northern rust bucket. :scratchchin: :shruggy:

JR

2k? Where do some of you guys come up with your valuations from? It isnt 1985 anymore, and I cant remember the last time I saw a buildable 2nd gen body sell anywhere near that.

This car could be a total rust bucket, but its a 69 Charger for under 10k.

I'll bet it's sold in under a week.

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birdsandbees

Nice steelies... what's the part number??   :yesnod: ;D
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Mike DC

Quote2k? Where do some of you guys come up with your valuations from? It isnt 1985 anymore, and I cant remember the last time I saw a buildable 2nd gen body sell anywhere near that.

This car could be a total rust bucket, but its a 69 Charger for under 10k.

I'll bet it's sold in under a week.


This.    :iagree:

The going rate for a 2nd-gen project is not "start with the finished restored value and subtract the price of taking it there."   That sounds like a nice world but it's not the one we live in.  



It's a rustbucket but he didn't even say it needed subframes.  For a 50-year-old project car that hasn't had preservation/resto work done over the years, that's not so bad anymore.  Even in Texas.  

If it had enough preservation/resto work to make a difference, then the owners would have invested much more in it over the decades.  That  would have put the car into a higher price bracket years ago.   


PrisonHack

I asked for frame rail and torsion bar pictures, I'll update this when/if he responds

lukedukem

Good luck, I'm emailed him last week when it first hit craigslist. Still no reply
And it's advertised in San Antonio, Houston, corpus. But I think he's in Katy.
Let me know what he says

Luke
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1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
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PrisonHack

It's been a couple of days since I emailed him, nothing yet.

PrisonHack

Quote from: JR on December 18, 2016, 03:29:58 PM
2k? Where do some of you guys come up with your valuations from? It isnt 1985 anymore, and I cant remember the last time I saw a buildable 2nd gen body sell anywhere near that.

This car could be a total rust bucket, but its a 69 Charger for under 10k.

I'll bet it's sold in under a week.



That's kinda what was thinking, 8k seems a bit high but not out of this world high, I was thinking 6500. If there are cars like this to be had for 2k I'm not finding them anywhere. I know I will never have enough extra $ for a turn key car or even a rust free roller. I foresee me rolling with a bit of bondo, wavy body panels and a hodgepodge interior. That's just me being realistic

Sublime/Sixpack

Having looked at the asking price, the few photos included and read the ad description, I say one would have to want a '69 Charger awfully bad to go after that one!

The seller says it's "non running but engine is good".

If it doesn't run how would he know the engine is good?  And if the engine is good, why not do a little work to it and get it running? Especially when asking $8000.00 for the car. Some people will say anything to make a sale!  :Twocents:
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Quote from: Sublime/Sixpack on December 18, 2016, 05:33:42 PM
Having looked at the asking price, the few photos included and read the ad description, I say one would have to want a '69 Charger awfully bad to go after that one!

The seller says it's "non running but engine is good".

If it doesn't run how would he know the engine is good?  And if the engine is good, why not do a little work to it and get it running? Especially when asking $8000.00 for the car. Some people will say anything to make a sale!  :Twocents:

:iagree:

Yep, one would have to be pretty desperate to pay that kind of money for a car which, aside from the glass and some chrome, is junk.  :Two cents:

The problem with this car - and any car like it, is that it needs a TON of work. The kind of work most "fathers and sons" dream about, but cannot fulfill. I bet the owner got the car home and realizing it was a POS, put it for sale again. And what did they pay for it? Probably less...  :popcrn:

Most people overpay for cars. I don't.   YMMV.

PrisonHack

  Since there are a lot of people saying it's junk and way over priced I'd like to know what I should expect at that price point. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, I've just never seen a second gen Charger with a running engine under 15k and I certainly haven't seen one under 10k. From the research I've been doing for over a year now I'm expecting a non running car needing metal repair at the below 10k price point. Are my expectations too low?

lukedukem

Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 18, 2016, 12:25:11 PM
If I lived in Texas I'd be looking for & buying a more Solid rustfree Texas car. That car looks more like a typical Michigan or northern rust bucket car. why do people in south buy & bring down northern rust buckets, I thought it went the other way, we in the north bring them up from the south? LEON.

That's why we have to bring them down here. All the Texas ones move north  :rofl:

Luke
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1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
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Sublime/Sixpack

Quote from: PrisonHack on December 18, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
  Since there are a lot of people saying it's junk and way over priced I'd like to know what I should expect at that price point. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, I've just never seen a second gen Charger with a running engine under 15k and I certainly haven't seen one under 10k. From the research I've been doing for over a year now I'm expecting a non running car needing metal repair at the below 10k price point. Are my expectations too low?

I'm not trying to bad mouth this car or discourage you from looking into it. My perspective is going to be different than your's. From my perspective $8000.00 is way too much for that car. Its going to require a lot of time, work, and money! If the engine was running so you could hear it and if it checked out good that would be a plus, but the seller says it isn't running.
If after looking the car over real well you feel that it's worth making an offer on it I wish you good luck and hope it works out for you.
Personally I don't believe what the seller said about wanting sell this '69 Charger because he really wants a '68 Charger. I try not to assume anything but my guess is he bought it, got it home, then reality set in and he realized that he had made a big mistake in buying it. Or he bought it hoping to flip it and make money from the deal. Something along those lines.
Sounds like you've been searching out these cars for some time and you're probably more up on what they're selling for these days than I am. I just don't like to see people get burned when making a purchase.
My advice would be to check it out really well, be objective, realistic, keep your emotions out of the equation and if you think you're up to the challenge of restoring it make a reasonable offer.
I don't know if any of this helps you in making your decision, but again, I'm sure my perspective is different than yours would be on this car. Let us know how it goes.
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JR

I'm not saying the car is or isn't buildable, but again, if 8k is out of line for this car, can you guys post up a better car for the same money?

Or are you telling the OP not to bother buying one at all until he has a 20-30k budget?  :shruggy:
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1974dodgecharger

Quote from: comet_666 on December 18, 2016, 10:46:29 AM
8K for a body that will need at least 20K of work? hmmmm

send it off to US Cartool 16500 and the body will be built with new stuff all of it.

Kern Dog

Yeah... Then you are almost $25,000 into a car that still needs everything else!