Line locks!Yes or no?

[cavemanno1]

While my car all apart I was thinking about adding line locks.My car is a 4 speed one and I don't want to damage my clutch or rear brakes.Plus my wife wants to burn tyres and I wanna make easier for her and for our car.Wouldn't do it very often but I have to show these "poor" Hungarians what an American muscle car can do
So I guess my question really is which one to get and not get it or not.
The mechanical one seems better as I won't have to install a switch and won't have any electrical problems.But that has a button as well witch activates the system.Hummm,anyway,what are your thoughts on that?

I know a burnout can be done without it but it's easier on the rear brakes plus no embarrassing moment if I stall it or can't do it!
Any particular model you can suggest?

Thanks,

[lukedukem]

All I got out of that was "my wife wants to burn tyres" 

I really don't have a recommendation. 

Luke

[timmycharger]

I installed one in my car, as it saw some track time when my car was an automatic. I think if you want to do burnouts, then go for it, it will save your rear brakes.  The challenge is where to put the button and not have a big wire on the handle.  I ended up putting it back in my car after the restoration and 4 speed swap. I used an old cruise control stalk and put in a modern button painted silver so I use one finger off of the wheel and hold the shifter in the other. 

[timmycharger]

couple of shots of the finished product.

[Back N Black]

I don't get it, why would you wear out the rear brakes doing a burnout? 

[timmycharger]

Brake stand is probably the better term, standing in place spinning the rear tires. Drag racing purpose would be to warm the tires. Fun purpose would be to do the same on the street.  My car even with the auto would do a burnout without the line loc and with little effort however I plan on more track time with slicks.  I was assuming this was the OP's intention.

[crj1968]

I don't get it, why would you wear out the rear brakes doing a burnout? 

Burnout vs. power braking ?

[cavemanno1]

No intention for drag racing a lot.All I'd like to do is a few standing burnout.My wife loved doing burnouts in our '69 383 auto but with a 440 4 speed I think she will have hard time doing it.Hell I think I will have a hard time learning it so I want to make it easier.Just imagine a sexy woman doing a burnout in a '68 charger 
I thought you wear out your rear brakes when standing on the brakes because you overcome the braking ability of the drums by force so you are wearing them out.Correct me if I'm wrong but with the line lock it's easy and cheap way to do it plus no embarrassement if you can't manage to do it!I'm 6000 miles away from the closest hardware store in the State so spare parts aren't easy to come by.

Hope that made it clear some how! 

[John_Kunkel]

my wife wants to burn tyres and I wanna make easier for her and for our car.Wouldn't do it very often but I have to show these "poor" Hungarians what an American muscle car can do

If the Hungarians are dumb enough to think tire smoke equates to performance, they're no dumber than their American counterparts.

[cavemanno1]

my wife wants to burn tyres and I wanna make easier for her and for our car.Wouldn't do it very often but I have to show these "poor" Hungarians what an American muscle car can do

If the Hungarians are dumb enough to think tire smoke equates to performance, they're no dumber than their American counterparts.

We are dumb that you would not believe it!Of course performance isn't equal with smoking tyres but when you think of muscle cars what is your first thought.Maybe not the first but close to it is burnout.Almost everyone loves to see a burnout,regardless of if it's a bike or car.
You guys tend to forget that this country is so backwards and way way behind the western world.There has been only 3 '68 chargers in Hungary,3!!!We don't have cars shows every week or any decent classic muscle cars.Guys drive Ford Explorers and they feel like if you have a '71 4 speed Hemi 'cuda.

[John_Kunkel]

when you think of muscle cars what is your first thought. Maybe not the first but close to it is burnout.

Nope. When I see a burnout the first thing I think of is the driver has a small penis.

[birdsandbees]

Well his wife is going to be doing them John.. .so I certainly hope so !!! 

[dual fours]

when you think of muscle cars what is your first thought. Maybe not the first but close to it is burnout.

Nope. When I see a burnout the first thing I think of is the driver has a small penis.

cavemanno1, install an electric solenoid line lock/roll control (I had the Hurst Roll Control on a four speed)   http://www.jegs.com/p/Hurst/Hurst-Roll-Control-Kits/745801/10002/-1?catargetid=230006180000851748&CAPCID=50248121831&cadevice=c&gclid=CKjSt_725MwCFcYfhgod8M4GjQ            in the front brake line, put the button some place like the above mentioned switch, some shifter handles have a momentary switch built in, lock the front wheels, (do you have drums on the front?), do your as we called it, "power brake" thing, make some noise and smoke.
Now... get a car window washer fluid container with a motor and wire that in with the electric solenoid and run a tube to each rear wheel, as you hold the button the solenoid holds the wheels and the washer activates and squirts whatever is in the container (water/bleach) on the wheels, makes more smoke with less effort.  
Now make smoke have fun and don't worry who's thinking about your penis.
Ps: keep in mind IF the electrical "closed/makes" connection fails and "opens/breaks", the car will take off, and extended periods of "ON" time could burn up the solenoid.

[crj1968]

when you think of muscle cars what is your first thought. Maybe not the first but close to it is burnout.

Nope. When I see a burnout the first thing I think of is the driver has a small penis.

What if the perp is a female?    

[cavemanno1]

Thanks guys!
Small penis?Why do always people say this crap when they talk about something they don't approve?If small penis equals to burnouts then most men who drives motorbikes and muscle cars has a small tool.But never mind!

Dual four,
Never heard this one but it's a good idea!
Just to put this in rest,yes my wife has no penis   but bigger "balls" then some guys!
Believe it or not but she wanted a '69 charger first when I met her and got me into this.
Since then I got really into it as you can see but if it wasn't for her I'd not have one now.
She loved our '69, drove it more then me and worked on it more then me!
So all I want is to make her happy to do burnouts,that's all.I have never tried it myself on a manual but was told it's not easy and with the line lock it's easy peasy!

Power brake is just a different name when doing a burnout?
I think I will go the manual line lock then.Don't want any electric issues.

Thanks,

Peter

[72Charger72]

Power brake is just a different name when doing a burnout?

Yes stomping on brakes while punching the gas. Typically front brakes hold tighter than the rear brakes so rears brake loose and tires spin=burnout and worn brakes

[cavemanno1]

Thanks for the explanation!So when you see the rear brakes glowing red and catch on fire then it's down to the lack of line lock and power braking!

[crj1968]

Thanks for the explanation!So when you see the rear brakes glowing red and catch on fire then it's down to the lack of line lock and power braking!

Indeed!

[tan top]

 if your so inclined to keep wanting to do burnouts  ,  nother way to fit a line lock , is to plumb in it to the rear brake line ( not the front ),  so you can still  control the front brakes  ,  can do slow rolling burnouts , by carful manipulation  of the  brake pedal as required   ,   , just remember to switch the line lock off , once you finish playing  , because you will  have no braking ( line pressure ) to the rear other wise .

[cavemanno1]

Steve you are confusing me!If I put it in the rear it means it will hold the rear brakes which is the opposite I would need?The rear must be free either by the line lock or the force of the torque.What if I turn the line lock on do the burnout and when I wanna do a rolling one I put my foot on the brake which will deactivate the line lock but still keeps pressure on the brakes and gradually let it off!
I think this will work!

[tan top]

Steve you are confusing me!If I put it in the rear it means it will hold the rear brakes which is the opposite I would need?The rear must be free either by the line lock or the force of the torque.What if I turn the line lock on do the burnout and when I wanna do a rolling one I put my foot on the brake which will deactivate the line lock but still keeps pressure on the brakes and gradually let it off!
I think this will work!

fit the line lock  / roll control in the normal way , as per instructions  !!

what I was on waffling on  about  , should you feel the need to do burnouts ! ,   by fitting  the line lock to the the other way around , ie  to the rear  brake line   ,  once the line lock it switched on , brake pressure will not go to the rear brakes ,  then just simply stand on the brakes & throttle  , just like foot braking & loading up  the converter , except because there is no brake pressure going to the brakes  ,  the wheels will spin  , then once spinning , you can   manipulate the brake pedal to achieve a rolling burnout , as short or as long as desired . once finished playing , remember to switch off the line lock to the rear , other wise you will not have rear braking .  
   
   NOW IVE JUST REALISED / REMEMBERED, YOUR CAR IS A MANUAL TRANSMISSION , so forget everything  ive typed!        

[Lennard]

If it's plumped in between the rear lines, you activate the line lock first...then you press your brake pedal which will then only hold your front brakes. Then you do the burn out and if you slowly release your brake pedal,  you will do a rolling burn out.

Edit; to late

[70 sublime]

If it's plumped in between the rear lines, you activate the line lock first...then you press your brake pedal which will then only hold your front brakes. Then you do the burn out and if you slowly release your brake pedal,  you will do a rolling burn out.

Edit; to late

Yes but you will have to pop the clutch and then jump on the brakes and the gas at the same time so you would end up moving a little

[John_Kunkel]

Small penis?Why do always people say this crap when they talk about something they don't approve?If small penis equals to burnouts then most men who drives motorbikes and muscle cars has a small tool.

It's all about showing off. Lots of folks drive muscle cars and bikes without making an ass of themselves by doing something to draw attention to themselves.

BTW, the space bar is that long thing at the bottom of the keyboard.

[timmycharger]

Can

Small penis?Why do always people say this crap when they talk about something they don't approve?If small penis equals to burnouts then most men who drives motorbikes and muscle cars has a small tool.

It's all about showing off. Lots of folks drive muscle cars and bikes without making an ass of themselves by doing something to draw attention to themselves.

BTW, the space bar is that long thing at the bottom of the keyboard.

wow, this really struck a nerve, did we get accused of having a small tool somewhere down the line?    Since when did doing a burnout in a muscle car become offensive to the point of insulting the OP on his keyboard usage?  

Edit:   By the way John, your spacing is perfect! Good job!