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Looking for production info on verifying 1968 Charger R/T 440 originality

Started by Bill Clay, January 03, 2016, 01:49:23 PM

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Bill Clay

Well now we are getting somewhere! Thank you for the detailed explanations!

So the fender tag is likely a repro installed during "restoration" that's ok. The owner has the original broadcast sheet in a frame. I saw it myself - the form is printed with somewhat light blue ink. He was never concerned with the car's originality, just its condition and that it had the right goods, if not necessarily the original goods. Yes, I can see how someone would think it very clever to search high and low for a replacement engine that has an assembly date close to what the original should be and transplant it into the car - it may have happened that way.

I posted in the BaT thread that there is some sort of illegible stamping at the back of the engine, but it didn't look like the stampings I've seen pics of elsewhere. I do not have a picture - the mech and I could barely make it out.

Here is a pic of the transmission stamping on the opposite side from the VIN. Can we determine if this is still a 3-speed TorqueFlight?

BLK 68 R/T

Yes, the transmission is a 3 speed torqueflight as evidenced by the VIN saying that it came from a RR  :yesnod:
also to clarify from a way earlier post of mine, the .010 undersize was in reference to the main/rod bearings and not the cylinder bore. Sorry for not clarifying  :laugh:

Bill Clay

Thank you sir! That makes more sense than differences in bores between engines. And I realize that there was only one 3-speed automatic tranny at that time, but I try to keep my deduced assumptions to a minimum.  :icon_smile_big:


Mytur Binsdirti

By chance, was the frame pulled or did it have a trailer hitch?






Bill Clay

We have no history on the car unfortunately - only what we see, what you see is what you get.

I know little about spotting autobody work - what do you see that suggests a frame pull? The elongated holes in the rails?


mightywing7

Just watched the auction.  Ended at $37,500 unsold.  Reserve not met.
1968 Dodge Charger R/T - 440 Magnum, 727
1968 Dodge Charger - 318, 904
1985 Chrysler LeBaron Turbo Convertible, Mark Cross - 2.2L Turbo
1987 Buick Grand National - 3.8L SFI Turbo
2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 Coupe, Supercharged 3.2L
2006 Chrysler 300C SRT-8, 6.1L HEMI

Bill Clay


tan top

Quote from: 6bblgt on January 03, 2016, 04:50:38 PM
it does have:  :2thumbs:

early air cleaner
early steering wheel
early Red/White/Blue interior door emblems (can you post a good clear photo of one?  please!)
early vent pull handles
early deck lid
early tail light panel supports

not sure where BC has gone  
this is the best I can do from the original , picture in the ad !
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Mytur Binsdirti

Doesn't look like a bad car, but being that it's a non-numbers-matching driver quality car with some paint/bodywork, seat and other detail issues, I'd say that 37 1/2 large is pretty much top dollar that I'd want to pay for the vehicle.

6bblgt

looks like a nice early car with most of the differences still intact,
but dare I say - typical flipper - or would that be stating an unfair assumption? or fact?

tan top

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on January 07, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
Doesn't look like a bad car, but being that it's a non-numbers-matching driver quality car with some paint/bodywork, seat and other detail issues, I'd say that 37 1/2 large is pretty much top dollar that I'd want to pay for the vehicle.



:iagree:   yep agreed


  looks ok ! good !   from a distance ,      yes !  closer you look  has things wrong  , but ! don't look that much of a biggie to put right , should you wish  :scratchchin:    nice charger  :coolgleamA:



Quote from: 6bblgt on January 07, 2016, 04:06:46 PM
looks like a nice early car with most of the differences still intact,
but dare I say - typical flipper - or would that be stating an unfair assumption? or fact?

    Agreed  :yesnod:    on both accounts   :2thumbs:  

    think  BC  , just wanted to make sure  , the Charger he was selling, or  was helping to sell  ,  was correct  ,   !!

&  came to the right place  , for charger info ,    



Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html