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Started by el dub, December 08, 2015, 10:10:18 AM

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skip68

It's one thing to take in refugees if they're having a civil war, or a failing ecosystem, or religious persecution.  
Under those circumstances they're safe and we're safe.  Nobody is coming here to kill them or us.
That's not the case here at all.    
Had our forefathers thought of something like this happening they wouldn't allow this.  I guarantee it.   We just might have to offend someone in order to protect us from foreign and domestic evil.  
But, how can you offend a group of people that admit they are scared as we are and know the root of this evil comes from their people?  
They took an oath and pledged allegiance to this country to be here yet their silence shows the real allegiance.  It shouldn't be about us against them, that's their doing.    They should open their doors to us and hunt with us if they truly are one of us.   

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el dub

Quote from: stripedelete on December 09, 2015, 07:35:21 AM
Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks to our European leaders for letting countries like Italy and Greece deal with the refugee problem on their own, and looking the other way for years.
Thanks to the ''gutmenschen'' (who may have been watching too much sesamestreet on tv) for creating a suction effect.

Anyone with common sense saw this coming a long time ago, I saw it coming over 10 years ago, and I am just some guy.

Sorry for you guys, but I must say I'm a bit relieved to see the USA is also taking in Syrian refugees now.



Is the video accurate?
I would say parts of it are accurate. Probably not all. Some sensationalism to spin everyone up.
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el dub

Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks to our European leaders for letting countries like Italy and Greece deal with the refugee problem on their own, and looking the other way for years.
Thanks to the ''gutmenschen'' (who may have been watching too much sesamestreet on tv) for creating a suction effect.

Anyone with common sense saw this coming a long time ago, I saw it coming over 10 years ago, and I am just some guy.

Sorry for you guys, but I must say I'm a bit relieved to see the USA is also taking in Syrian refugees now.


Why are you relieved?
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

MoParJW

Quote from: stripedelete on December 09, 2015, 07:35:21 AM
Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks to our European leaders for letting countries like Italy and Greece deal with the refugee problem on their own, and looking the other way for years.
Thanks to the ''gutmenschen'' (who may have been watching too much sesamestreet on tv) for creating a suction effect.

Anyone with common sense saw this coming a long time ago, I saw it coming over 10 years ago, and I am just some guy.

Sorry for you guys, but I must say I'm a bit relieved to see the USA is also taking in Syrian refugees now.



Is the video accurate?


I'm from the Netherlands, approx. 2000 miles from the European border where the more sensational footage in the video seems to be from, so I can't comment on the actual situation there, but imo the video is dramatised.

Over here I have only seen a couple of busloads with refugees and some refugees on foot... but I am located in the relatively thin populated area in the north away from the big cities and ports to England.
There are however plans for a permanent refugee center a couple of miles from my house, so that may change in the future, but I don't expect too many short term problems to be honest.
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MoParJW

Quote from: el dub on December 09, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks to our European leaders for letting countries like Italy and Greece deal with the refugee problem on their own, and looking the other way for years.
Thanks to the ''gutmenschen'' (who may have been watching too much sesamestreet on tv) for creating a suction effect.

Anyone with common sense saw this coming a long time ago, I saw it coming over 10 years ago, and I am just some guy.

Sorry for you guys, but I must say I'm a bit relieved to see the USA is also taking in Syrian refugees now.


Why are you relieved?

Because my country is small with lack of space, housing and jobs.
I know people that have been on the waiting list to rent a place for years and years, and in the future they may have to compete with syrian families for a place to live.

But my main concern is the same as is mentioned in the video, the effect the newcomers will have on our way of life.
And unlike the Dutch media is telling us, I personally believe the first generation of Syrian refugees will be a ''lost generation'', unable to find a job and unable to adapt.

The few Syrians I met through the years seemed to be good people to me, but they came from a totally different world than ours.
For example I was talking to a Syrian girl a couple of years back and she told me her niece had something she called ''the evil eye'', It was causing people who came near her to get ill or die.
Because of this, the little girl was kept locked away in the house 24/7 if I understood correctly.
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skip68

Our way of life shouldn't change.  Cultures and beliefs are just different enough to create problems.   They treat women like dogs.  They are prehistoric compared to us.  They just don't belong here as we don't belong there.  Everyone has their place in life, don't force us all together. 

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Mike DC

QuoteHad our forefathers thought of something like this happening they wouldn't allow this.  I guarantee it.


They wouldn't allow us to have a standing army several times bigger than any other on the planet, either.  

And they would be rolling on the floor laughing when they hear us blame our economic woes on anything else.  

el dub

Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: el dub on December 09, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: MoParJW on December 09, 2015, 06:38:24 AM
Thanks to our European leaders for letting countries like Italy and Greece deal with the refugee problem on their own, and looking the other way for years.
Thanks to the ''gutmenschen'' (who may have been watching too much sesamestreet on tv) for creating a suction effect.

Anyone with common sense saw this coming a long time ago, I saw it coming over 10 years ago, and I am just some guy.

Sorry for you guys, but I must say I'm a bit relieved to see the USA is also taking in Syrian refugees now.



 

Because my country is small with lack of space, housing and jobs.
I know people that have been on the waiting list to rent a place for years and years, and in the future they may have to compete with syrian families for a place to live.

But my main concern is the same as is mentioned in the video, the effect the newcomers will have on our way of life.
And unlike the Dutch media is telling us, I personally believe the first generation of Syrian refugees will be a ''lost generation'', unable to find a job and unable to adapt.

The few Syrians I met through the years seemed to be good people to me, but they came from a totally different world than ours.
For example I was talking to a Syrian girl a couple of years back and she told me her niece had something she called ''the evil eye'', It was causing people who came near her to get ill or die.
Because of this, the little girl was kept locked away in the house 24/7 if I understood correctly.





Ok I get it now. Us taking in immigrants is taking some of the pressure off your country. America is a nation of immigrants. We have always taken in immigrants. We opened that door in 1776 for immigrants but in the 21 century I think we need a new door. One that not just anyone can walk through. But that's just me. My govt. doesn't call me when they make decisions. But those people walked to your country. Are we supposed to fly them to our country, or are they to pay their own way. It looks like they are all young men to me so I bet they have the coin. But I bet my country will pay their way. Just to piss me off.
     Why are you relieved? Didn't your government let them into your country. Did your govt. take more than they should have?
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el dub

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on December 09, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
QuoteHad our forefathers thought of something like this happening they wouldn't allow this.  I guarantee it.


They wouldn't allow us to have a standing army several times bigger than any other on the planet, either.  

And they would be rolling on the floor laughing when they hear us blame our economic woes on anything else.  
Your right about that but I think if they saw all the foreign cars made in our country they would be spinning in their graves. Sucker deal of the century.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

skip68

Just exactly who are we at war with?  
It's not a country it's a rogue religion that has NO borders.  And for that reason alone we shouldn't take anyone in that's connected to that religion.     We are NOT fighting a country.  We're fighting an ideology with an enemy that we can't see.  
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Mytur Binsdirti


cavemanno1

Hi guys!

Just seeing this thread and i have to reply!

I'm from Hungary and those footages are real!Most of these people are not from Syria but from all over the middle east and africa.I know this by fact because over here they have only allow Syrians in since our government pulled up the wire fence on our green boarder!
I will link real footages how tgese people behave so you can see other then the media is feeding you!
Most of my friends work in the police force and they fought these so called poor imigrants for months on just because we wanted them to be registered and documented!
They refuse anything with the red cross on it from the Red Cross humanitarian aid!They sold their given food on the market the next day!!!
They refuse to behave and act in an orderly fashion.Tgey fight with each other in the camps just like they did back home.
They are given trains,buses and not made to walk anywhere.They urinate and all sorts on the buses and trains!!!They have no intention to become european!Look what's happening in Germany,Sweeden and other countries!Sweeden has 90% of a rape epidemic!!!
These people are walked into Hungary with ipone5 ipad air and such plus 10.000 euros.As i said i have friends who has to work on the boarder and they found a lot of people with a hufe amount of money.Strangly most of the guys has their finger tipps damaged recently so when fingerprinting they can't be identified later on.

As the first sengen zone country Hungary has an obligation to register everyone who comes in the country!These people didn't want to come through the legal border they just illegaly entered the our country.

How can you accept to be welcomed when you enter our home without permission and acting like wild animals!They broke into houses threatened people and fought against our police force.

Your mexicans never did this,did they?Your mexicans work hard and try to stay unnoticed so they can have a better life!Are these people look like they will accept our way of life when they can't even behave when they enter illegaly this country!

They say they are refuges and had to walk 2000 miles or whatever.Sobwhy don't they go to their muslim friendly neighbors?Why do they wanna go tge germany?They are in safe in Turkey,Grees, Serbia,Hungary,Crotia and such.
They want the good german life!These people here for the money and money alone!!!

You guys say that your government let everyone in?
Tell you who they let in and it's a hard written fact from your usa immigration website!!!
I know this because i have been trying to imigrate out there for 3-4 years now!

Have education my wife has 2 masters degrees speak English just like me and your government refuse to give us a green card!We don't want your taxpayers money and would work just like wecwork here.

We have money,well not long since i just bought a charger  :icon_smile_big: but still have enough to support us!

These people called as beneficial refugees,after the money and not seeking safe only!

The Eu called us racists for building the wire fence to stop the uncontrollable hoards of people!They the EU required Hungary to act upon the sengen zone rule of registering everyone who enters the zone.But they criticized us for doing it!You saw all the footages on the news that these poor immigrants suffer and have to wait in camps.They were treated way more kindly as they should have been the way they entered and behaved.

Back to your government letting everyone in subject!
So your US government gives out green cards to all nations in a form of a lottery,called green card lottery!
Hungary gets 273 cards and other European countries similar more or less.
Black african nations gets 1500 and up!!!So every year you have maybe a 1500 white european go to your country and 5-6000 black africans!

Don't get me wrong,i'm not against them i'm just showing you the way it is and not trying to start racial hatred!

I'm on my iphone now and can't link videos up here but will show you some footage how these poor immigrants behave.

By the way they literally kidnapped kids to travel with them and they abandoned them once in here.Just alone in my town there are at least 250 kids who got abducted!

I don't think if i go to your border and when you refuse to let me in or i don't want to be registered,i start burning tires and throwing bricks at you you will give me and my family food water and shelter!

Europe is doomed and all this blind PC bullshit is only helping those who wants to see Europe fail!

Rant over!

polywideblock



                             good to hear from someone actually "on the ground " over there   :yesnod: 

  you would not believe how many "bleeding hearts " are saying the footage of them running amok is ALL false and misleading  :scratchchin:


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el dub

Skip, were not at war buddy. Yet.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

skip68

 :rofl: 
Sorry to hear that stuff in your country caveman.    :pity: 
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el dub

Quote from: cavemanno1 on December 09, 2015, 09:58:52 PM
Hi guys!

Just seeing this thread and i have to reply!

I'm from Hungary and those footages are real!Most of these people are not from Syria but from all over the middle east and africa.I know this by fact because over here they have only allow Syrians in since our government pulled up the wire fence on our green boarder!
I will link real footages how tgese people behave so you can see other then the media is feeding you!
Most of my friends work in the police force and they fought these so called poor imigrants for months on just because we wanted them to be registered and documented!
They refuse anything with the red cross on it from the Red Cross humanitarian aid!They sold their given food on the market the next day!!!
They refuse to behave and act in an orderly fashion.Tgey fight with each other in the camps just like they did back home.
They are given trains,buses and not made to walk anywhere.They urinate and all sorts on the buses and trains!!!They have no intention to become european!Look what's happening in Germany,Sweeden and other countries!Sweeden has 90% of a rape epidemic!!!
These people are walked into Hungary with ipone5 ipad air and such plus 10.000 euros.As i said i have friends who has to work on the boarder and they found a lot of people with a hufe amount of money.Strangly most of the guys has their finger tipps damaged recently so when fingerprinting they can't be identified later on.

As the first sengen zone country Hungary has an obligation to register everyone who comes in the country!These people didn't want to come through the legal border they just illegaly entered the our country.

How can you accept to be welcomed when you enter our home without permission and acting like wild animals!They broke into houses threatened people and fought against our police force.

Your mexicans never did this,did they?Your mexicans work hard and try to stay unnoticed so they can have a better life!Are these people look like they will accept our way of life when they can't even behave when they enter illegaly this country!

They say they are refuges and had to walk 2000 miles or whatever.Sobwhy don't they go to their muslim friendly neighbors?Why do they wanna go tge germany?They are in safe in Turkey,Grees, Serbia,Hungary,Crotia and such.
They want the good german life!These people here for the money and money alone!!!

You guys say that your government let everyone in?
Tell you who they let in and it's a hard written fact from your usa immigration website!!!
I know this because i have been trying to imigrate out there for 3-4 years now!

Have education my wife has 2 masters degrees speak English just like me and your government refuse to give us a green card!We don't want your taxpayers money and would work just like wecwork here.

We have money,well not long since i just bought a charger  :icon_smile_big: but still have enough to support us!

These people called as beneficial refugees,after the money and not seeking safe only!

The Eu called us racists for building the wire fence to stop the uncontrollable hoards of people!They the EU required Hungary to act upon the sengen zone rule of registering everyone who enters the zone.But they criticized us for doing it!You saw all the footages on the news that these poor immigrants suffer and have to wait in camps.They were treated way more kindly as they should have been the way they entered and behaved.

Back to your government letting everyone in subject!
So your US government gives out green cards to all nations in a form of a lottery,called green card lottery!
Hungary gets 273 cards and other European countries similar more or less.
Black african nations gets 1500 and up!!!So every year you have maybe a 1500 white european go to your country and 5-6000 black africans!

Don't get me wrong,i'm not against them i'm just showing you the way it is and not trying to start racial hatred!

I'm on my iphone now and can't link videos up here but will show you some footage how these poor immigrants behave.

By the way they literally kidnapped kids to travel with them and they abandoned them once in here.Just alone in my town there are at least 250 kids who got abducted!

I don't think if i go to your border and when you refuse to let me in or i don't want to be registered,i start burning tires and throwing bricks at you you will give me and my family food water and shelter!

Europe is doomed and all this blind PC bullshit is only helping those who wants to see Europe fail!

Rant over!


     Just fly to Mexico and come across with everyone else. :cheers:
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

skip68

Caveman, I'll pick you up in Arizona at the border.  :2thumbs:
:scratchchin:  You're not Muslim are you ?   :nana:
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Lighthorseman

 :dancinglock: What Is Coming To This Thread...  :dancinglock:

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polywideblock



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el dub

Muslim groups raise $134K for San Bernardino shooting victims, families. Seems like a step forward to me. What do you think?
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skip68

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ws23rt

Quote from: el dub on December 10, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
Muslim groups raise $134K for San Bernardino shooting victims, families. Seems like a step forward to me. What do you think?

 :2thumbs: A good and impressive step forward from the Muslim groups.  :2thumbs: It's a good sign of the wake up call being heard. It is also of some comfort to those of that (have not lost loved ones) we are not in a global religious war.---Yet--- :eek2:

Another much needed step (for those of us that are still living)  (most of the rest of the world) is the help from the Muslim community to squash the virus/cancer that killed all these folks.

If I was passing the plate for donations in this war I would be looking for information and identification of killers to fill the plate.

A donation of information is urgently needed.-----It's way better to prevent killings then to express sorrow with money. :Twocents:


ws23rt

The topic of this thread is "What is coming to america"

The answer is ??---- Maybe an easier question would be--what is not coming to America?--- Western Europe seems to be experiencing an immigration issue and the world is watching how they handle it.
We (the US) have been experiencing immigration for a long period of time and a very different sort of immigrant.

It's very clear that things are changing fast.  

An immigration that assimilates is one thing.  An immigration that absorbs the host is another.

What needs to be made very clear to the world is that the US is open to a prosperous future for those that want to partake. However it is not a new place to remake into where one comes from.

If you don't like where you came from what sense does it make to bring --all-- of it with you??  

This --historically-- is a place for a new life.--- Please come here with that in mind and leave the reason you left home where it is.

If you come here to kill us or our way of life we will kill you and your way of life.--Easy stuff.

skip68

Could you imagine refugees coming into the U.S. in herds of hundreds and thousands like Europe?     :o
I feel worse for the residents than the refugees.   Which by the way are 90% healthy able bodied young men.    :rotz:
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