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Does anyone still run solid lifters?

Started by Ghoste, October 03, 2015, 07:40:37 AM

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Ghoste


Challenger340

Yeah, still build plenty of Street/Strip efforts with Solid F.T.'s... mostly because on the Dyno I just haven't yet seen sufficient, or any higher rpm gains with HR's versus the expense ?
and on most solid F.T.'s I can usually best an HR's curve between 4500 to 6500 rpm where guys wanna run when beating it like a red-headed stepchild.

Just me though, and I must be doing it wrong.... because lotsa guys have moved over to HR's as a preference.
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heyoldguy

Building a solid flat tappet 440 right now.

Ghoste

I am too, that's why I asked.  I wondered if I was one of the last ones left.  :lol:

Kern Dog

I'm running the Mopar 528 cam in my 440/493. It has more clickety clack than the Lunati solid though, due to the wider valve lash I'm sure.

BSB67

If I were building a budget performance car (can't really imagine I would build something that performance was not important) a soild FT would be my first pick.

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

Ghoste

I'm guessing you normally do solid roller?

BSB67


500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

don duick

me too,   comp xe274s-10  and not noisey

six-tee-nine

Maybe you could reverse the question, why should you not run solid lifters?

Does the fact that modern days technology has moved on make older stuff no good anymore? I see alot of small airplaine engines today that are still flatheads. Why? because of the sheer simplicity of them. I'll take a late 90's Merc turbodiesel over all the modern emission crap loaded stuff anytime.
So is newer technology Always better?
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cdr

my 512 has one in it, i used tool steel lifters from Trend performance.
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c00nhunterjoe

Most people are afraid of solids for some reason. You cant beat them when it comes to idle quality and overall performance. The only "drawback" is the need for an adjustable valvtrain. When it comes to being noisey, you can tailor your choice of cam around the lash settings and lobe profile. Last time i checked, most guys on here complain about noisey hydraulics anyway.

Ghoste

Yeah there are a lot of people with noisy hydraulics aren't there?  :lol:

BSB67

Quote from: don duick on October 03, 2015, 08:09:30 PM
me too,   comp xe274s-10  and not noisey

How does that cam idle?  What is your idle vacuum?


500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

Dodge Don

Solid here with MP 528 cam and 1.6:1 rockers.

don duick

Quote from: BSB67 on October 04, 2015, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: don duick on October 03, 2015, 08:09:30 PM
me too,   comp xe274s-10  and not noisey

How does that cam idle?  What is your idle vacuum?


idle is OK not too lumpy have it set at about 800. vacuum is 11. I have a manual A833 and taking off is a bit difficult you have to rev it to about 2500 or 3000 or it will stall. If it was an automatic you will not be able to use a stock convertor

John_Kunkel

Quote from: six-tee-nine on October 04, 2015, 02:32:03 PM
Maybe you could reverse the question, why should you not run solid lifters?

Only downside I can think of is perceived noise and the need for periodic adjustment.
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BSB67

Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 05, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on October 04, 2015, 02:32:03 PM
Maybe you could reverse the question, why should you not run solid lifters?

Only downside I can think of is perceived noise and the need for periodic adjustment.

You know you are old school when you feel that the noise is an added bonus. 

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

ws23rt

Quote from: BSB67 on October 05, 2015, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 05, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on October 04, 2015, 02:32:03 PM
Maybe you could reverse the question, why should you not run solid lifters?

Only downside I can think of is perceived noise and the need for periodic adjustment.

You know you are old school when you feel that the noise is an added bonus. 

A forty six year old car -is- old school. :lol:  There are many things about them we spend cubic dollars on for them to remain "old school". :cheers:

BSB67

Quote from: ws23rt on October 05, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: BSB67 on October 05, 2015, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 05, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on October 04, 2015, 02:32:03 PM
Maybe you could reverse the question, why should you not run solid lifters?

Only downside I can think of is perceived noise and the need for periodic adjustment.

You know you are old school when you feel that the noise is an added bonus.  


A forty six year old car -is- old school. :lol:  There are many things about them we spend cubic dollars on for them to remain "old school". :cheers:

Not talking about the car  ;D

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

ws23rt


Kern Dog

Quote from: BSB67 on October 05, 2015, 05:48:02 PM


You know you are old school when you feel that the noise is an added bonus. 


I do like the clickety sound. I ran hydraulics for years, still do in other cars and trucks I own. The Charger is my jewel though.   :yesnod:

Paul G

Quote from: Ghoste on October 04, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Yeah there are a lot of people with noisy hydraulics aren't there?  :lol:

Yes there are. Hydraulic lifter quality has turned to crap. Lots of ticking lifters out there.
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543 victor heads ,
11.25 comp , comps solid roller,
15 vacuum
Once engine has run in, I've found that I adjust lash less and less frequently , seems to have settled