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Started by jabo, June 18, 2015, 03:14:37 PM

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jabo

Rear end work and some trunk

jabo

trunk and beginning from the floor worke

jabo

Now it will be bad...  :'(

Some more insects???  :scratchchin:

jabo

But it will be better  :icon_smile_big:

jabo

Nice rust protection and coating

jabo

Later or tomorrow you can get more pics (if you want).

And i hope you enjoy!

green69rt

The mud ball is a wasp nest that is made by an insect called the mud dauber.  Common around here.  You can google it.

oldschool

very nice sheet metal work!  :2thumbs:
1968 cuda formula S bb 4-sp                          1968 Charger R/T 500" 4-sp
1970 Charger 580" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

cdr

awesome work you are doing!!
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

jabo

Thanks!

Ok, that insect looks very cool and it eat spiders¿?  :o In Germany, it is the other way around!  :lol: Nice info.

jabo

Now it gowes on.

Some floor work on the other side. That´s not good!  :'( Some rusty holes into the frame

jabo

Only some welding. But very bad corner for grinding!

On the third picture you can see one part of the frame stiffening set (torque boxen).

jabo

Welding and anti rust coating.

jabo

Now the floor from the bottom side and a nice set of my subframe connectors for stiffening.  :drool5:

jabo

Very exactly welding at the sub frame connectors for good frame stiffening

jabo

My nice birthday cake. Very nice idea  :2thumbs:

The car consists of chocolate and the ground consists of black forest cake  :drool5:

jabo

Now the translation from column shift to floor shift.
A little bit complicated to find the correct position (not very much space between shifter and console)!

The other thing is one more part of the frame stiffening set (torque boxes for the rear).

jabo

There is the drivers side door lock attachment with some cracks in it. But ok for the age of 45 years.
The suspension became some sandblasting by a company.

jabo

It began on the 2. February 2013 and now my own little final. It´s ready for painting!!!  :D

But it will take a long time into the paintshop.
The master say approximately january or longer  :brickwall:
But they do the best work in this area!

jabo

Now I do only some little things like finishing the interieure, work on the suspension and other little things like that sandblasted parts.

jabo

(I hope you understand me completely at this post! It will be some difficullt sentence for me).
I buy many expensive things like the complete wiring loom, complete 68 grill, 2 pieces from the fenders from AMD...
I don´t want that you tink I am a poser. I only want that you now that this is my big dream. And I want that you now that I spend enough money for this.
It can be, that I must save money a long time.

But I want a fast car and your best recommendations!!!

A 1000HP engine would be by far the greatest thing for me. Do you really have good recommendations for me? I hope that only experienced members will answer!

I hear that the 440 engines are good for 800HP with a main grindl. Is it correct? or can I go with my 440 for 1000HP?
Otherwise I will go with an hemi engine. It would be nice when it was an naturally aspirated engine (because the nice sound).
Or can I buy/build an supercharged engine where you only hear the "normal" engine sound? A little turbocharger sound will be ok (or would that change the exhaust sound too much)?
Thanks for your answers!

ChargerST

Nice to see that you are moving forward with your Charger! Nice work too! Does the welding of the bottom part of the subframe connectors really increase the stiffness?

About the engine choice: I assume you want the 1000 hp engine for bragging rights, correct? Imo a 1000hp engine for a street car is a bad idea as you won't be able to put the power on the road with a stock style suspension. 1000hp n/a is hard to achieve and veeeery expensive without NOS - premium parts only if you want it to live longer than just a few weeks (aftermarket block, heads! etc.).
Better to talk to the engine builder pros like Challenger340 or heyoldguy

jabo

Thanks! I search for a long time for subframe connectors and on the end I preferred this one. I have a friend that deal with muscle cars and work every weekend on them. I ask him what he think about. And he say that this one are the best that he knows. You can feel it at an normal ride he say. The other one only attached at the front and on the rear. These one are everywhere attached. And after installation the front and rear sub frame are connected to one piece (ok, you can hear it by the name  :brickwall:)

I am sorry. I don´t understand that words "bragging rights" does it mean break the law? Or do you mean that i want to ?boast/brag/crow...?
I don´t want to break the law (our freeways are without an speed limit  :icon_smile_big:) But I think I only race it on a drag strip!
Or if you mean the other thing: OK, a little bit. It is nice to say 1000HP. A number with 4 digits. Every people will be amazed.
(Even little Audi´s or VW´s with 2,2 literary / 135cui engines does have 800HP in my town).

What do you think is ok for the original suspension? And what will be ok for an aftermarket suspension?

It will be ok that the engine has so much power only with nitrous oxide!!! (or does nitrous oxide change the sound)???
I don´t now a guy with nitrous oxide.

Yes, I estimated about an aftermarket block and so on. But I think it will be ok (engine cost 30k-35k $/€)?

A good durability and not to much maintenance would be nice! --> I hope you don´t say "Forget it"!!!

Normally I don´t write on chats (can I ask these members directly on this homepage)?

ChargerST

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I am sorry. I don´t understand that words "bragging rights" does it mean break the law? Or do you mean that i want to ?boast/brag/crow...?

bragging rights = gives you the "right"/opportunity to brag about your engine etc. Nothing to do with breaking the law (most times) ;)

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What do you think is ok for the original suspension? And what will be ok for an aftermarket suspension?

Really depends on the build. A high hp car has to be a package so engine, suspension, body (cage!), weight distribution all tie together. You need at least a Dana60 axle! Don't forget to upgrade you transmission as well.

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Yes, I estimated about an aftermarket block and so on. But I think it will be ok (engine cost 30k-35k $/€)?
A good durability and not to much maintenance would be nice! --> I hope you don´t say "Forget it"!!!

Budget is ok. Durability and maintenance friendly is possible. You could aim for 750/800hp and a 200/250hp shot of nitrous.

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Normally I don´t write on chats (can I ask these members directly on this homepage)?

Sure, just send them a private message. You should also look at the "Proven Engine Combos" board --> see Engine board. Some nice builds there that just might be what you're looking for!

jabo

Ok, now I understand  ;)

Yes, I know. I inquire me about a dana60. I coud get it for under 3k here in germany and I know an transmission specialist.He say a TF727 build up to 1000HP will cost 3k with explosion guard. I want to keep the leaf springs (I hear it is better for the launch). Is that correct? But I don't want a cage. What do you think about the max HP numbers for that combo? Or don't you know it  too?

Yes, a 750-800HP combo with will be ok. But I don't know. Will it be ok for an 440 with good durability/maintenance.

I seach for some good engine combo sides. Do you know some?

Thanks for you hard write work!  :2thumbs: