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68 HEMI CHARGER ON EBAY

Started by cdr, February 03, 2015, 03:54:54 PM

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moparnation74

Quote from: sdweatherman on February 07, 2015, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 07, 2015, 12:43:53 AM
Do the fender tags on 68's have the engine code ?
If the 68 tag does have a code for the engine in this case a hemi and the VON # matchs the body IE the trunk gutter hasn't been sectioned in to a donor body. One would tend to believe its a hemi body. Why someone would tamper with the VIN tag, but leave fender tag seems odd to me unless it was stolen once upon a time ?
charger_fan_4ever is on the right track here. Yes, the fender tag does show the engine code and the 1st 4 letters/numbers of the VIN, XS29. It also shows the Vehicle Order Number. For 1968, its the VON that is stamped in a couple of places on the body. SO, as long as the fender tag is original/legit, and the numbers that are stamped on the body match (and haven't been sectioned in to a donor body like charger_fan_4ever stated), then you have a real deal Hemi Charger on your hands. In this case, I would not consider it to be a Rebody.

Assuming the tag and body stampings are legit, the only thing this Charger is suffering from is an identity crisis. You are given a name when you are born and leave the hospital. Same thing for a car, it is given a name (VIN) and it leaves the assembly plant. Lets say you have a bad accident and suffer total memory loss and don't remember you name. You don't have any ID and no family members come looking for you. After a while, nothing comes back to you, and you simply have to come up with a new name for yourself. You are still the same genuine physical person, you just have a different name.

This Charger was given a new name - XS29J8B423876 (for example) that falls within the know sequence numbers for cars built at this plant on the car's SPD (Apr 10). Is there a possibility that the 423876 sequence number matches another car built at that plant on that day - probably. Is it possible that this other car with the 423876 sequence number is an R/T Hemi Charger (XS29J) - most likely not. So the new VIN (Name) that this Charger has been given is most likely unique, and is not shared by another vehicle out there.

So, in my opinion, it is a real deal 1968 Hemi Charger - NOT a rebody - that just has a different name.
Scott. :Twocents:
The owner does not have a build sheet.  So you have a body and Vin that do not match with no link.  A recreated Vin that doesn't match the latter.  So yes you have a hemi body, then you have no bs or Vin to link the three together.  In the end a Vin altered and tampered with was moved and attached to another vehicle, hence rebody.  At least the owner is upfront about the Vin situation but not upfront about Galen's paperwork, build sheet, and non matching motor.

TUFCAT

As soon as VIN tampering of any kind gets thrown out into the mix....its a huge red flag.

I'd want to know why it doesn't have the original VIN it left the factory with. Plain and simple.

Associating the fender tag to this VIN is questionable right now, but 'll stop right here.

I'd really like to know what's in Galen's report before I make anymore statements regarding its authenticity.

charger_fan_4ever

Now im even more curious. Forget this car say car B) is a 68 hemi charger r/t with no b.s. The order # on the body matchs the tag BUT you have no build sheet either. From what im understanding a 68's b.s has the order # and VIn number. Which is the only way to match all 3 together. So a 68 with no b.s how can one determine the VIN tag is/isn't correct ?


Now back to the ebay car. With the b.s not present how did GG determine the VIN tag isn't correct ? :popcrn:

TUFCAT

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 08, 2015, 11:45:25 AM

Now back to the ebay car. With the b.s not present how did GG determine the VIN tag isn't correct ? :popcrn:

Exactly Charger Fan....I was curious about the same thing.  Without the report there's no way to know why unless Galen had some conflicting information in his databases somewhere.

moparnation74

Quote from: TUFCAT on February 08, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 08, 2015, 11:45:25 AM

Now back to the ebay car. With the b.s not present how did GG determine the VIN tag isn't correct ? :popcrn:

Exactly Charger Fan....I was curious about the same thing.  Without the report there's no way to know why unless Galen had some conflicting information in his databases somewhere.
Correct.  What does not make sense as your aware of this as I am.  Why the owner will not disclose the full gg report?