just wondering about a source, not a tech question about 1st gen cluster

[Nacho-RT74]

that's why I don't post on interior or elect area


A friend down here found a 1st gen Charger with cluster all hacked up. have not see it personally yet, but just getting his description So He is thinking on get another healthy one. Doesn't need to be perfect, but healthy

beside some private seller on ebay, do you know some rebuilt service able to have some one in stock on these

I know about THE GAUGEDOC.COM website... just trying to get some other source too

[Ghoste]

There are some but I don't think they are cheap.  When you say the cluster is hacked up, what do you mean exactly?

[Nacho-RT74]

I still have to check it personally to know what he meant about hacked up. Maybe he doesn't know gauges are wired kinda diff than the regular ones.

will know later

[Ghoste]

Okay, keep us updated then because it could just be an easy fix.

[wingcar]

A lot of the used ones I have found for sale are hacked up around the radio area from a previous owner mounting an AM/FM radio in place of the standard AM radio.

[RIDELIKEHELL]

Ron aka BIGSUGAR may have an extra..pm him

[ODZKing]

66 or 67? In addition to minor look, tach is different.

[Ghoste]

I may have an extra too.

[Paul G]

A friend of mine specializes in 1st gen gauges. He is also a member on this board.

http://thegaugedoc.com/

[Nacho-RT74]

yes, the gauge doc... I made reference to him on OP

I have to check how is really the conditions of this one. I think the search will be more related on gauges and housing than the rest. EL ballast is missed too.

Wasn't aware about tach diff between 66 or 67 ( not even the minor look diff ? ), but I don't think that will be a problem. If cares, this one is 66

[ODZKing]

66 Charger had a seperate tach sending unit, 67 Chargers had the sending unit built into the tach itself.
Early 66 dash

Late 66/1967 Dash

[Nacho-RT74]

I still can't tell the minor look differences on those pics LOL.

My friend is telling me he wants another cluster anyway. The back of cluster was drilled everywhere to install "exterior" bulbs to ligth up the cluster

[Nacho-RT74]

oooh... mmmm I see... the center ornament of gauges, silver finish on 66s and black on 67s ?

something else ?

[ODZKing]

Yes, they called one satellite dish and the other volcano.
One other difference is one says gasoline, the other fuel. I have only ever seen one and that was at Moparfest either last year or the year before.
That is part if the clear plastic that covers the gauge and they have just a slightly different finish.  Other than that, no not much difference.

[Ghoste]

Keep in mind also Nacho that in those photos, one has been shot just as a regular pic and the other was shot to portray the guage lit up while still showing the rest in normal light.  It gives the one a sort of chromed look to the overall instrument that isn't really there.  Other than that center ornamentation, the two would look the same and more like the second pic to the naked eye.

[ChargerST]

I would love to see how it would look if you put the 66/67 cluster in a second generation dash...

[Nacho-RT74]

ok surfing around we found one with silver center but fuel lettering.

66 or 67 ? LOL

[Nacho-RT74]

one note... the car in Venezuela is 66, full console, silver buttons on center of gauges, but red medallion on grill, instead gold. as far I know 66s should be gold...

maybe late 66 production ?

now, what about if he get a built in tach sender unit cluster for his 66, and his car is external sender unit... I guess should work, just modifying the tach wiring... right ?

[Ghoste]

You just kicked over the fastback hornets nest.  My position is that they were all red.  Some agree, some disagree.

[Nacho-RT74]

well, I have seen 1st gens gold medallions on the web

[Nacho-RT74]

just pm'd you ghoste!

[ODZKing]

You just kicked over the fastback hornets nest.  My position is that they were all red.  Some agree, some disagree.

They were all red as Ghoste says. I have told this story before but will tell it again.
Back when I first bought my 67 I had a fellow come up to me with NOS parts for a car he never restored. Zoom forward, I bought the parts and one of the pieces was a brand new, in the box, NOS center grille emblem which I promptly put on the car along with the new grille he had.
Fast forward again to 2014, it has been almost 10 years and the grille emblem which was red when it went on in 2005, is now almost completely gold. I am guessing another couple years and the red pigment will be completely gone.
I have actually had several people say to me at a show, "I thought only 66's had gold emblems in the front."
Red emblem fades to gold - end of story  .

[Nacho-RT74]

gold:

[Nacho-RT74]

ok, well I dunno, about if the gold color is true, but just what I have read on the 66-67 board info section LOL.

I'm kinda new on 1st gen world

[chargerperson]

You just kicked over the fastback hornets nest.  My position is that they were all red.  Some agree, some disagree.

They were all red as Ghoste says. I have told this story before but will tell it again.
Back when I first bought my 67 I had a fellow come up to me with NOS parts for a car he never restored. Zoom forward, I bought the parts and one of the pieces was a brand new, in the box, NOS center grille emblem which I promptly put on the car along with the new grille he had.
Fast forward again to 2014, it has been almost 10 years and the grille emblem which was red when it went on in 2005, is now almost completely gold. I am guessing another couple years and the red pigment will be completely gone.
I have actually had several people say to me at a show, "I thought only 66's had gold emblems in the front."
Red emblem fades to gold - end of story  .

AGree with ODZ and have another data point for what is worth.  I also have a NOS center grille emblem and it is red