Price, Condition and Options Question

[Ghoste]

C-body is your best bet by your list. 

[knightprowl]

Thanks for the information Ghoste. I will consider it once I have the money.

Thank you and Peace.

[500Jon]

Hi KP,

Daily driver 69 Chargers are $50,000 not $5,000 methinks?

Happy Hunting Fella.
Seen some cheapo's in Holland Europe, but not drivers more trailer-trash!

Jon

[Dreamcar]

Your interest in mopars is clear and your preference for 69 chargers is understandable.

Will you accept a stepping stone to what really want?   If that's the case than I see a long hard road.  Selling/trading what one has to get where we want to be is tough.  One does not generally gain trading value in this market.  It's more like hanging in there.

You stated you need to sell something now to even make the next step. Just making that next step would put you one step back because you will then have to sell/trade to do it again.

My advice is to understand what will make you happy in the long run and not waste your money on something that is not really your passion.

History shows that the good deals happen rarely and those that grab them have money at the time.

I recommend you sell the car you intend to sell for this adventure and add all the cash you can to a pot than hunt for what you really want.

I missed many great deals over the years because I could not act immediately.

An assumption I'm making here is that the car you are looking for will not be your daily transport. If that's true you than your optimism is realistic.

I have to agree. Let's say you spend 7k now on a Mopar, you will very likely not get 7k back when you sell it because you'll be using it as a daily and the car is not the most desireable mopar to begin with. So, let's say in two years you get 5k for it. You're now down 2K towards the Charger. Plus, the cost of the Charger has gone up (likely) in the last two years. Don't forget too, a 30+ year old Mopar for 7K will likely chew up some of that hard earned money in maintenance and fuel if you plan on driving it daily most of the year. It may work well when you buy it, but it can start costing money very quickly. Again, that's more Charger money burned.

We all know you want to build a LEE1 replica, which is cool. However, as I said in another post in another section of the forum, do what you can to get the Charger asap because it its the car you ultimately want, even if it takes a few years to build up to being drivable,  let alone a LEE1 replica. Chargers are not getting less rare or cheaper. Using a less desireable, less expensive car as a stepping stone will very likely increase the time it takes to get a Charger.

Just my  , but do what you "want".

[EccentricMagpies]

Your interest in mopars is clear and your preference for 69 chargers is understandable.

Will you accept a stepping stone to what really want?   If that's the case than I see a long hard road.  Selling/trading what one has to get where we want to be is tough.  One does not generally gain trading value in this market.  It's more like hanging in there.

You stated you need to sell something now to even make the next step. Just making that next step would put you one step back because you will then have to sell/trade to do it again.

My advice is to understand what will make you happy in the long run and not waste your money on something that is not really your passion.

History shows that the good deals happen rarely and those that grab them have money at the time.

I recommend you sell the car you intend to sell for this adventure and add all the cash you can to a pot than hunt for what you really want.

I missed many great deals over the years because I could not act immediately.

An assumption I'm making here is that the car you are looking for will not be your daily transport. If that's true you than your optimism is realistic.

I have to agree. Let's say you spend 7k now on a Mopar, you will very likely not get 7k back when you sell it because you'll be using it as a daily and the car is not the most desireable mopar to begin with. So, let's say in two years you get 5k for it. You're now down 2K towards the Charger. Plus, the cost of the Charger has gone up (likely) in the last two years. Don't forget too, a 30+ year old Mopar for 7K will likely chew up some of that hard earned money in maintenance and fuel if you plan on driving it daily most of the year. It may work well when you buy it, but it can start costing money very quickly. Again, that's more Charger money burned.

We all know you want to build a LEE1 replica, which is cool. However, as I said in another post in another section of the forum, do what you can to get the Charger asap because it its the car you ultimately want, even if it takes a few years to build up to being drivable,  let alone a LEE1 replica. Chargers are not getting less rare or cheaper. Using a less desireable, less expensive car as a stepping stone will very likely increase the time it takes to get a Charger.

Just my  , but do what you "want".

He has to drive something... Lets say he purchased an '05 magnum for 7k. Owns it for 2 years and now can only get 5K for it.  I don't see a difference.  So, any commuter will eventually cost him.  So, if it is going to cost him a little bit after a few years, regardless, why not drive something that is less common on the highways? 

As for finding a 1st gen or 3rd gen between 5k and 7.5k, they are all over. 

[Dreamcar]

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He has to drive something... Lets say he purchased an '05 magnum for 7k. Owns it for 2 years and now can only get 5K for it.  I don't see a difference.  So, any commuter will eventually cost him.  So, if it is going to cost him a little bit after a few years, regardless, why not drive something that is less common on the highways? 

As for finding a 1st gen or 3rd gen between 5k and 7.5k, they are all over. 
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But why spend the 7k to begin with? From what I understand, he doesn't really NEED to do so, but he wants to do just to have an old Mopar. If his current ride is ready to be retired, then yes I agree he needs a commuter car so an old mopar (what he wants) would be cool to have. However, if his current ride still runs and drives (and maybe paid for), and he really wants a Charger, why spend the 7K that could go towards a Charger on something he doesn't really need.

[Challenger340]

For a car in decent enough condition, and capable of sustained daily driver duties, I see a C-Body in the OP's future ?
that,
or if better fuel economy is desired, a slant six A-Body ?

[EccentricMagpies]

For a car in decent enough condition, and capable of sustained daily driver duties, I see a C-Body in the OP's future ?
that,
or if better fuel economy is desired, a slant six A-Body ?

I agree...

I'd spend ~3K and keep your current driver.  This will satisfy driving an old mopar and saving for your '69 as Dreamcar points out.
hope it all works out.

But why spend the 7k to begin with? From what I understand, he doesn't really NEED to do so, but he wants to do just to have an old Mopar. If his current ride is ready to be retired, then yes I agree he needs a commuter car so an old mopar (what he wants) would be cool to have. However, if his current ride still runs and drives (and maybe paid for), and he really wants a Charger, why spend the 7K that could go towards a Charger on something he doesn't really need.

[Troy]

In my expert <cough> opinion, if your primary goal is a 69 Charger then don't spend a dime on anything. Old cars eat up cash whether you're in the middle of a restoration OR driving them. It's highly likely that you'll spend more on keeping a not-so-rare/pricy old car on the road then it is worth. If you have a limited budget you can't blow it all then magically have anything left over when a Charger comes your way. Unfortunately, I do this fairly often so do as I say and not as I do! I have four projects that would be super cool when finished but I often buy drivable heaps just because I enjoy driving more than working in the garage. For example, the $7,000 that I spent on a toy truck means I don't have enough in the "old car fund" to paint one of my Chargers. On top of that, I spent $190 on gas, $30 on gaskets, and $400 on tires over the weekend. That's about what I need for machine work for the Chargers. More cars means it's easier to justify more tools, more space, and buying in bulk - all budget killers. Unless you're made of money (and sometimes even then) every little thing becomes a compromise. Learn to save and focus on what would really make you happy. If you dream of a GL1 replica and nothing else will satisfy you then accomplish that goal without getting sidetracked! Take on a part time job, sell off collectibles, stop eating out, drink water instead of soda, don't smoke/chew, avoid strip clubs and sports events, etc.

On the other hand, sometimes our dreams are more about what would improve our standing amongst others and not truly what would make *us* happy. It's very possible that another car would provide as much (or more) enjoyment than you think. I used to dream of 1 of 1 Hemi cars and factory 427 Cobras and GT40s until I realized that I driving one of them as much as I drive my current cars would not be practical - and likely very nerve wracking! Having a cool car that's only good for sitting in my garage would be depressing to say the least. One of my biggest regrets is selling my 73 Barracuda 318 auto. It wasn't rare or beautiful buuuut it was cheap, comfortable, ultra dependable, and nice enough to generate a lot of attention. I piled on the miles in that car. Sold it for something that's still in pieces in my garage eating money/time at a high rate (actually, two somethings which is even worse). While I "traded up" in the car world I certainly lost in the quality of life department.

And some of you guys need to learn to "let go". Makes life a little less miserable.

Troy

[hemi-hampton]

I don't have the money right now. I still have to sell my car to get it. Plus I only made this topic to see what to expect for my budget. But thanks for the offer. Once I get the money I will make a topic here. If he still has it for sale and can lower his price down a bit then I might buy it.

But that's if I get the money anytime soon. However I am probably just going to try and trade my car for another one locally and worry about a mopar later on after I save up some money. That way I can have more options open to me with more money. But thanks for the offer none the less. I will let you know once I get the money if I don't trade locally.

And if he still has it and would lower his price to say $5,000 then I might. But it has to have the options I want. Which is a 318 or bigger, torqueflite automatic transmission, power steering and power brakes. But that's if it does and if he would take only $5,000 for it and if I get the money anytime soon. But I will let you know none the less.


He'd probably take $5,000 at the least. I thinks it's mostly original paint & interior & low mileage, Some old grandpa owned car. I'd drive it myself for daily driver if I had the funds. LEON.



Thank you and Peace.

[knightprowl]

I am going to be buying another car so this topic is no longer needed. I am just going to wait and sell the new car that I get for the money to buy a third generation dodge charger. I know a guy who will probably give me around $15,000 for the new car I will be buying soon if I sell my car in time to buy it.

And the reason I am saying car is because its not a mopar so I don't want to say what it is exactly since this is a mopar forum and not another car brand forum. But hopefully by next summer I will have a third generation dodge charger if I get the new car I want if I can sell my car for what the new car is worth.

Which is a steal for the type of car it is. So wish much luck on selling my car in time to get the new car for so little and can hopefully sell it to the guy I know for what it is actually worth. So wish me luck on this guys. And hopefully in a years time I will be a mopar owner. If not then oh well. But I will just have to wait and see. Anyways enough rambling. Thanks for all the help and advice so far guys.

Thank you and Peace.

[hemi-hampton]

GOOD LUCK.   LEON.

[knightprowl]

Thanks Leon I will need it.

Thank you and Peace.

[Dreamcar]

I am going to be buying another car so this topic is no longer needed. I am just going to wait and sell the new car that I get for the money to buy a third generation dodge charger. I know a guy who will probably give me around $15,000 for the new car I will be buying soon if I sell my car in time to buy it.

And the reason I am saying car is because its not a mopar so I don't want to say what it is exactly since this is a mopar forum and not another car brand forum. But hopefully by next summer I will have a third generation dodge charger if I get the new car I want if I can sell my car for what the new car is worth.

Which is a steal for the type of car it is. So wish much luck on selling my car in time to get the new car for so little and can hopefully sell it to the guy I know for what it is actually worth. So wish me luck on this guys. And hopefully in a years time I will be a mopar owner. If not then oh well. But I will just have to wait and see. Anyways enough rambling. Thanks for all the help and advice so far guys.

Thank you and Peace.

OK, I have to ask. If you sell the new car and get 15k for it, plus save a few bucks over the next year, why would you not use all of that towards a '69 that you really want?

[knightprowl]

It probably wont be $15,000. Maybe $10,000 if I am lucky. I never actually met the guy. I heard he offers high prices for cars so I am going by here say so to speak. And the reason why I wouldn't use that money towards a 1969 dodge charger is because I wouldn't have the time or the money to save for one.

Plus if I can get a third generation dodge charger I can sell it to this guy for $25,000 or so. Then I could get a 1969 dodge charger. Or maybe I will just keep my third generation dodge charger when I get one. I just want a old school dodge charger mainly and I have no objections to a first generation or even a third generation dodge charger.

Though a third generation is more down my alley so to speak. Plus I could get what I want in a third generation dodge charger for $10,000 or so. Hopefully $15,000 but will see what that guy says. But its all about luck for me. Maybe in a few years I will have a 1969 dodge charger. Only time will tell and if everything goes according to plan so to speak. Anyways wish me luck because I am seriously going to need it.

Thank you and Peace.

[crj1968]

ahem- cough- cough ...

http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/4691504396.html

Thought it was sold...dude was so sure of himself. His wife mustve slapped him down.   

...still available.

[Dreamcar]

ahem- cough- cough ...

http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/4691504396.html

Thought it was sold...dude was so sure of himself. His wife mustve slapped him down.   

...still available.

This is the point I'm trying to make. If the OP wants a 69 Charger (based on the multiple threads he's created), this is an example of what can come up for sale and he wouldn't necessarily have to go through buying and selling (and maybe losing money) on a third gen.

[knightprowl]

Thanks for the offer but that isn't a 1969 dodge charger. Nor is it in the condition I am wanting for a 1969 dodge charger. But thanks for the offer none the less. Like I said above I will worry about getting a third generation dodge charger once I get the new car and if I can sell it for enough money to get a third generation dodge charger and can hopefully sell that third generation dodge charger for the money to get a 1969 dodge charger.

But for now I must focus on selling my car and getting the new one. Once I have the new car I will worry about selling it for the money to get a third generation dodge charger. Then once I have a third generation dodge charger I will worry about selling it for the money to buy a 1969 dodge charger. So one car and one step at a time for me. Anyways thanks for everything so far guys. Wish me luck.

Thank you and Peace.

[Troy]

I still say it's easier to cut expenses as far as possible and get a 2nd job. Flipping cars to fund a hobby is a TON of work for (usually) little gain. If you're serious you need to think about flipping multiple cars per week. Not just one ever.

Troy

[Dreamcar]

I still say it's easier to cut expenses as far as possible and get a 2nd job. Flipping cars to fund a hobby is a TON of work for (usually) little gain. If you're serious you need to think about flipping multiple cars per week. Not just one ever.

Troy

[knightprowl]

I don't have a job. Nor do I plan on getting one anytime soon. Plus its not a big deal to me. I can wait on a 1969 dodge charger. I have been waiting for one for over a decade now. And I don't even know that I will sell the car I have now anytime soon and even if I do if I will get the new car before its sold to someone else.

And even if I do I don't even know if the guy I heard of will give me anywhere close to $15,000 for it. I am basing this all on hunches and luck. I know that is stupid and wastes time and money but that's just how I am. I have always been this way and so far everything has worked out for me. So my luck isn't to bad. All I can do is pray my luck don't run out anytime soon.

And that I can sell my car and get the new car before its sold to someone else and can get this guy I heard of to buy the new car for anywhere close to $15,000 so I can get a third generation dodge charger and then sell it to the same guy for $25,000 or so so I can get a 1969 dodge charger. So its all about luck for me. Luck and going on hunches and hear say. But to each his own. Thanks for the advice none the less.

Thank you and Peace.

[hemi-hampton]

How come you don't have a Job. How old are you? LEON.

[Troy]

Luck and hunches? Sounds like a plan.

So, I suppose I have been lucky - but I've never had a car fall in my lap for free. I was mainly lucky in the fact that I had cash when a car became available and I got it before anyone else did. Make your own luck. Get cash and start hunting for cars where no one else is and you'll have one way before your luck and hunches pay off. Unless your luck comes from benevolent parents/relatives.

Troy

[knightprowl]

I don't want to talk about it. Lets just stay on topic please.

Thank you and Peace.

[Dreamcar]

Knightprowl: In the General Q&A section of the forum, you started a thread where you claim to have a 30k budget, and you kept us going about a LEE1 replica, and now it appears that you have no intention (or money or job) to get a Charger in the first place for at least a few years. What gives?  And if there's a way of enjoying my Charger and rebuilding it without a job, can someone please tell me how?  

30k in a year:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,113304.0.html

Really???