Nice collection of 69 Chargers

[bigdsul]

Nice collection of Chargers. Judging by the looks of a few they appear to be destined for Lee clones. Nice lot of cars.


Anyone here have a collection along this caliber? Owning one is fun enough............ but half a dozen

[Ghoste]

Is that HLPAG's yard?

[Indygenerallee]

Looks like it, Bondo wagons galore

[bigdsul]

You guys are familiar with the cars/owner?

[myk]

You guys are familiar with the cars/owner?

A little lol.  Google HPLAG and you'll see.  BTW if you want to read about a QUALITY collection of Chargers read about Tim Wellborn and his uh....little collection of cars.  His story will make you absolutely green with envy...

[bigdsul]

You guys are familiar with the cars/owner?

A little lol.  Google HPLAG and you'll see.  BTW if you want to read about a QUALITY collection of Chargers read about Tim Wellborn and his uh....little collection of cars.  His story will make you absolutely green with envy...

Well I couldn't find much on HPLAG other then the cars are less than sub par but the stories are all a few years old from what I have read posted on CGLFC. I was just curious about the cars but now I'm interested in the back story now.

BTW that Wellborn collection is AMAZING! I can't imagine going through all that effort and years of work to acquire those cars, to sell many in order to keep the business lights on, and then buy them back down the road. What a story.

[JB400]

A little reading  on HLPAG:cheers:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,3692.0.html

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6464.0.html

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,12323.0.html

Just a search on here will net you 14 pages of info on them.

[myk]

You guys are familiar with the cars/owner?

A little lol.  Google HPLAG and you'll see.  BTW if you want to read about a QUALITY collection of Chargers read about Tim Wellborn and his uh....little collection of cars.  His story will make you absolutely green with envy...

Well I couldn't find much on HPLAG other then the cars are less than sub par but the stories are all a few years old from what I have read posted on CGLFC. I was just curious about the cars but now I'm interested in the back story now.

BTW that Wellborn collection is AMAZING! I can't imagine going through all that effort and years of work to acquire those cars, to sell many in order to keep the business lights on, and then buy them back down the road. What a story.

Yeah, Wellborn is a noteworthy man.  I'd love to drive my Charger out to his museum one day and shake his hand.  As for HPLAG, well, sellers will do what they can to sell, it's the buyer's responsibility to educate themselves on their potential purchases...

[Mike DC]

HLPAG is an older name.  The guy changes the name of the business periodically as his bad reputation catches up with him.  Avoid it like the plague. 

The business is located in Lake Villa, IL and the guy's name is Hans Ludke. 

At least one time he also took steps to mislead people into thinking his lot was in Cali.  I guess that was an attempt to improve his Ebay type sales.     
 

[polywideblock]

think they are true muscle cars  now 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

All I see are a collection of mediocre parts cars. Where's the good stuff?

[Ghoste]

Myk there is doing what you can to sell a car and there is being an outright crook.  Hans is a crook who has been staying just ahead of the law and/or getting shot. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

First & second pic looks like a '70 rear clip

[myk]

Myk there is doing what you can to sell a car and there is being an outright crook.  Hans is a crook who has been staying just ahead of the law and/or getting shot. 

Oh for sure he's pond scum at the very least.  I just hope that people look into him and his...product before they buy.  I for one never buy anything from anyone on eBay unless their feedback is short of perfect and the merchandise is something I'm extremely familiar with...

[bigdsul]

HLPAG is an older name.  The guy changes the name of the business periodically as his bad reputation catches up with him.  Avoid it like the plague. 

The business is located in Lake Villa, IL and the guy's name is Hans Ludke. 

At least one time he also took steps to mislead people into thinking his lot was in Cali.  I guess that was an attempt to improve his Ebay type sales.     
 

Thanks for the info. I had a lead on a car that appeared in that yard. It was a black 70 R/T and I so happened that I saw the 69s in the back ground. I did a little googling and found those pictures.

[Patronus]

That first picture sucks.

[bigdsul]

http://www.truemusclecars.com/


Is this HPLAG? the cars look decent enough but after reading what others have said, YIKES!

[JB400]

That would be them

[TruckDriver]

http://www.truemusclecars.com/


Is this HPLAG? the cars look decent enough but after reading what others have said, YIKES!

Yes, they have a few names they use.

[1970Moparmann]

The only person that I have heard that had a positive experience with the guys that own the shop, is my buddy.   Why?  he bought a 68 Charger RT for $5k from them that needed a total restoration.  Maybe they didn't have enough bondo for it?  LOL.   John did the car right and it came out great.

One of the owners bought a few parts off my 68 when I was restoring it.   They bought the parts that I deemed I didn't want on my car, hence watch out.....

[polywideblock]

http://www.truemusclecars.com/


Is this HPLAG? the cars look decent enough but after reading what others have said, YIKES!

   

[bigdsul]

So some further googling leads me to this site with some of the same cars up for sale. Are the companies working with each other to sell each others cars I wonder?

http://www.classiccarguy.com/search.asp

[polywideblock]

I use these guys for vehicle inspections     
their "for sale "section is just like any other classified adds anyone can post their cars for sale there if you want to pay for the pleasure
  think hplag/true muscle cars are just using different means of selling/duping the public  now   

[bigdsul]

I use these guys for vehicle inspections     
their "for sale "section is just like any other classified adds anyone can post their cars for sale there if you want to pay for the pleasure
  think hplag/true muscle cars are just using different means of selling/duping the public  now   

Are they any good?

There are a few Chargers on the website and most seem pretty rough. Albeit drivable. I'm just curious because the website has an address for them that is about 2 hours from me here in California.

Are they able to locate cars or car parts?

[polywideblock]

they do a 12 page report with heaps of pics of all the areas that sellers don't want you to see . they have saved me from buying a couple of bondo buggy's over the years,  money  well spent   .don't know about parts location but mike answers his emails fairly quickly so wouldn't hurt to ask