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Getting closer, starting the final body work at last! ****Mission Accomplished**

Started by timmycharger, June 25, 2014, 09:50:32 PM

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Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

timmycharger

Got a lot accomplished this weekend, the hood and deck lid are done, scuffed, and ready for sealer, the fenders are ready go, just some more small areas on the door and valance and they will be ready for sealer too. Hopefully Ill have everything sealed in about 2 weeks.

timmycharger

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timmycharger

We did some spraying this weekend finally! First all of the parts were cleaned with wax/oil remover with a PPG product thats super nasty. We then cleaned all of the panels off with a tacky rag.  The underside went very well. 2 coats of sealer on everything. We then ran into trouble with the primer as I ran out of the activator recommended to go with the primer, I tried using a different kind of activator and then the primer I was mixing turned into something of the consistency of tapioca pudding... needless to say it was no good so I had to call it a day.  I picked up the correct stuff and will have to finish in a few days. The booth is working great so far, doing a great job of blowing out most of the fumes. Neighbors looooove me!!  :cheers:

timmycharger

 :cheers:

timmycharger

We did some some more work on the panels last night. My brother in law sprayed the topside of the panels with the same primer we used on Sunday. Ran into some strange issues with the primer that I have never seen before. On parts of the panels including most of the hood and deck lid, the primer went on really poorly, leaving tiny balls or almost like sand. It looks like he was dry spraying but it only did it on some parts of the panels, but the gun setting never changed and he was at the same distance that he was on Sunday and the back side came out perfect. One of the fenders, the valence, all of the hinges/bolts and half of the doors are perfectly smooth, but you can see almost stripes where it balled up. 

The good news is that this is the side that I will be sanding down anyway to block the body lines, the inside of the panels came out fine and we will be spraying color on it next week. I was able to rub off the balls/sand with my finger after the primer dried and It was somewhat smooth underneath. Dunno, will sand it down and see how it looks.

timmycharger

now the ugly...  :shruggy:


Musicman

I'm no expert when it comes to painting techniques, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it looks like the paint was drying before it hit the panels.   :shruggy:

timmycharger

Thanks guys,

It was humid last night, but no different than Sunday when I did the other side, but that could be possible.

Quote from: Musicman on August 13, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
I'm no expert when it comes to painting techniques, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it looks like the paint was drying before it hit the panels.   :shruggy:


Ya, that's exactly what it looks like, but the strange thing is I was watching him lay down the paint and on some parts it went on like glass, then on the next overlap its balling up, looking like dry spray.

I started a thread on this topic in the body section hoping for more suggestions.

timmycharger

I talked to the body shop guy and he had some advice on the primer situation, had me clean the guns again as he thought I could have had a clog in one of the nozzles. who knows I did use the gun for primer and when we really cleaned it again, there was lots of crap still.  He shot the blue and clear, came out pretty good, this color is hard to photograph and the camera sucks, sorry!

timmycharger

few more


On the pic of the hood, I think I kicked up some dust as you can see it. luckily that's the panel and there are only a few spots that I will need to wet sand, otherwise it came out pretty good.

timmycharger

Did some work this weekend, next is prepping the body for sealer.


green69rt

Yes, nice job on those door lines.  What black did you use, PPG?

timmycharger

Thanks! For the black I used a spray can of SEM gloss black that I got from the auto body supply place. Its expensive but its easier than having to clean the gun  :yesnod:

green69rt

Quote from: timmycharger on September 07, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
Thanks! For the black I used a spray can of SEM gloss black that I got from the auto body supply place. Its expensive but its easier than having to clean the gun  :yesnod:
so I'm guessing that you are going for a black interior.  Nice work, I'm following your lead as I get closer to paint.

timmycharger

Did some work over the weekend, the pictures dont really show how much was involved. Using a DA and 180 grit paper, I removed all of the old primer and E coating on the skins of the quarter, as well as the rocker, cowl and dutchman panel.  Even being rattle can etching primer that I used 6 years ago, it was still a beast to get off. Once the body is down to bare metal, Ill pull some dents, shrink some metal and prime/seal everything that was bare. Once that is done, i can put on the panels for the last time and start the filler work on the lines.

timmycharger

Ok got some work done on it last week, getting closer to getting the sealer on the body before it gets too cold.  Tried my hand at some metal shrinking as the quarters and dutchman panel were oil canning, needing only to barely touch it with your finger to go in and out.

Tried 2 methods, for the areas in which I was worried about burning the backside, I used the Stud gun which worked well, but very slow and the gun got very hot.  You can see on the pics the very tiny burn marks, but it didnt disturb much behind it and did a good job.  The dutchman panel was terrible so I had to bring out the propane torch which did a hell of a job. Super quick and now its tight as a drum. With both methods, I used ice water to quench it.  Overall came out pretty well.  Sunday I will have it completely sealed/primed then its time to put the panels on!

SovereignZuul

Lookin' good dude! :cheers:

I'll probably follow your painting process to do it myself like you after investigating costs for local shops to do it recently!  

Love your step by step!
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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

timmycharger

Thanks!  :cheers:  ya, about 2 years ago I was getting quotes between 10-12K so thats when I decided I was going to paint it in sections, first the firewall/trunk/jambs/roof/  then inside the panels, then hopefully next summer if I finish all of the blocking/filling work it will be painted by my brother in law who has been doing a great job so far. 

Next summer I will have to build the booth a few feet wider and deeper to give enough room to get around it.