Got busted speeding in the dart

[Bandit72]

i love all the people who just assume since it is a 40+ year old car it can only do the speed limit. I too have been young and dumb...still not very old, and still pretty dumb, I've been WAY too fast in ALOT of vehicles that should have barely been road worthy! One weekend on a wim in high school I dropped a mildly warmed over 360 in a 62 Dodge D-100 Long Bed that had more holes than a package of swiss cheese and proceeded to go racing anybody that would laugh at the old "clunker"...won ALOT of races in that old thing...never touched the 4 drum brakes or manual steering...I did put in new king pins if I recall.

[Ghoste]

I got caught by a camera in the 70 olds, it was Nice because they mailed me some cool pics of areal shots 

only cost me 125$, which is about what it would have cost pay a photographer to climb the light pole to take them 

  Nice.

[TUFCAT]

Drache, I hate to be the "safety monitor" here - - but do you have a shoulder belt or just a lap belt in your Go-kart?   Hopefully you're wearing it.

[Bobs69]

If the cop owned a 383 dart himself, & caught you in a dart..then why did you get a ticket?
I thought darts were rare up north.

That $310 ticket was a "gift."  You got a freebee there Drache.

[MaximRecoil]

i love all the people who just assume since it is a 40+ year old car it can only do the speed limit. I too have been young and dumb...still not very old, and still pretty dumb, I've been WAY too fast in ALOT of vehicles that should have barely been road worthy! One weekend on a wim in high school I dropped a mildly warmed over 360 in a 62 Dodge D-100 Long Bed that had more holes than a package of swiss cheese and proceeded to go racing anybody that would laugh at the old "clunker"...won ALOT of races in that old thing...never touched the 4 drum brakes or manual steering...I did put in new king pins if I recall.

I guess that explains why you're proud of your reckless endangerment. And any vehicle that isn't structurally sound (i.e., "more holes than a package of swiss cheese") shouldn't be on the road at all, obviously, much less exceeding the speed limit.

[Cooter]

You do realize @100 mph, there's about 10 lbs. On each tire in these type cars. At 140 mph, you do the math.

[NHCharger]

You do realize @100 mph, there's about 10 lbs. On each tire in these type cars. At 140 mph, you do the math.

WOW. 10 lbs. on each tire. So he should be getting something like 200 MPG   

[MaximRecoil]

You do realize @100 mph, there's about 10 lbs. On each tire in these type cars. At 140 mph, you do the math.

WOW. 10 lbs. on each tire. So he should be getting something like 200 MPG  

I assume you're joking, but for those who don't know what "Cooter" is talking about, he is referring to lift; it is the principle which allows airplanes to fly. Cars, unless specifically designed with downforce at high speeds in mind, will also try to fly at high speeds. At speeds of say 160 to 180 MPH, a car not designed to be stable at such speeds can either lose traction altogether as it takes flight or it will feel like you are on ice due to minimal traction. And no, this doesn't help the gas mileage in any meaningful way (whatever improvement you'd get from decreased rolling resistance from the tires would be way more than outweighed by the massive air resistance at such speeds), just as an airplane doesn't get great gas mileage just because of there being no weight at all on its tires when it is flying.

[Dino]

Some people here will remember my excessive speeding a few summers ago in the Charger when I got a call that my wife was having serious problems with her heart.  I drove like a lunatic to get to her and posted about it here afterward because I felt bad about it.  I can say now that I did it because I was afraid I was going to lose her, but still I endangered myself and others on the road.

Don't make that mistake because you're tired of being stuck behind some trucks.

You admitted your mistake from the get go so I'm not going to lecture you, just know that you got away with murder and don't repeat it.

Personally I don't care for the dick measuring here, who cares if it was 144 or 110, same difference and it's getting old.

When I had my 68 with 383 I took it to the track and felt firsthand what lift was all about, very scary stuff when you feel the nose lift and lose all sense of road feel in the steering wheel.  As if the stock power assist isn't bad enough.

You got a $300 life lesson, not a bad price to pay.

[TUFCAT]

Dino that was very well said!   Drache seems like a nice kid, and I'm glad he doesn't have to worry about anything more than losing a few hundred bucks. 

[ACUDANUT]

144 MPH my ass! 

x3

[Drache]

I'm calling Bullshit on the 144 MPH...KPH maybe~! No freaking way driving an old fashioned car like that!  Let's be honest here...these old cars don't drive, handle, perform, nor have the same manners and characteristics as driving a modern car.  No offense but especially an A-body!

Like I said before, I can only state I was going over 120mph at the time I was caught, that is where my speedometer tops out. It was the Officer to claimed it was 144mph on the radar. I HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT IS TRUE and not claiming it is true. But I was doing excessive speed.

And for those that don't think a Dart could go "fast"....

Car & Driver did a test in April 1976 on a Corvette, Mustang Cobra II, Trans Am, Dart Sport, and C-10 Silverado. Top speed went to a Corvette at 124.5mph, second place was the Dart Sport with a stock 360 that did 121.8mph.

Dart from the article:


Car & Driver also did a test in 1971 on a stock 340 demon and found the top speed for it to be 127mph

[Baldwinvette77]

In my city a primer black 67 mustang coupe made the local news a few years ago , hit a wall on the highway at 130ish and folded up like a tin can, so yeah i believe that they can go that fast... but why???

We have videos games if you wanna go fast without consequence 

fastest ive gone in an old car was 110-120.... cause thats as far as the speedo went 

[MaximRecoil]

Dart from the article:

Car & Driver also did a test in 1971 on a stock 340 demon and found the top speed for it to be 127mph

Potential top speed of any vehicle can be determined with basic math. It is only potential however, because the basic math doesn't take into account factors like the aerodynamic properties of the car and engine power (for example, a bicycle could easily be geared to have a top speed of 200 MPH in top gear @ 150 RPM of the crank, but that doesn't mean anyone has the leg power to push it to that speed).

So, just out of curiosity, what are the following specifications of your car?

- Engine redline?
- Top gear ratio in your transmission?
- Rearend gear ratio?
- Size of rear tires?

American performance cars from the "muscle car era" didn't usually have a very high top speed, because they were usually geared low for faster acceleration off the line (important in drag racing), and they didn't have overdrive transmissions (their top transmission gear was 1:1). A Hemi car with the highest rearend gears available (2.76:1?) would have had the highest real world top speed of any factory Mopar from the era, and if the car was a Daytona or Superbird, it would have had an even faster top speed due to better aerodynamic properties (including downforce to keep it stable at high speeds).

[JB400]

You do realize @100 mph, there's about 10 lbs. On each tire in these type cars. At 140 mph, you do the math.

WOW. 10 lbs. on each tire. So he should be getting something like 200 MPG   

I assume you're joking, but for those who don't know what "Cooter" is talking about, he is referring to lift; it is the principle which allows airplanes to fly. Cars, unless specifically designed with downforce at high speeds in mind, will also try to fly at high speeds. At speeds of say 160 to 180 MPH, a car not designed to be stable at such speeds can either lose traction altogether as it takes flight or it will feel like you are on ice due to minimal traction. And no, this doesn't help the gas mileage in any meaningful way (whatever improvement you'd get from decreased rolling resistance from the tires would be way more than outweighed by the massive air resistance at such speeds), just as an airplane doesn't get great gas mileage just because of there being no weight at all on its tires when it is flying.

Do we really need a science lesson in every thread?

[Indygenerallee]

Do we really need a science lesson in every thread?

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[MaximRecoil]

Do we really need a science lesson in every thread?

x2

Science is good. On the other hand, comments from the peanut gallery, as well cheerleader action from fellow peanut gallery dwellers, are utterly worthless.

[JB400]

I wasn't asking where you get your comments from or their value, but just wondering why it was necessary for a science lesson based off of someone else's smart remark when the discussion is about someone blowing the doors off of 8 semi's in an awesome Dart and getting his wrists slapped.

[MaximRecoil]

I wasn't asking where you get your comments from or their value, but just wondering why it was necessary for a science lesson based off of someone else's smart remark when the discussion is about someone blowing the doors off of 8 semi's in an awesome Dart and getting his wrists slapped.

"Necessary"? There isn't a single post on this entire forum, from anyone, which is "necessary". But, if you want, for each post of yours which you can legitimately justify the "necessity" of, I'll justify the "necessity" of one of mine. Keep in mind that your specialty, i.e., peanut gallery-type comments, are as far from "necessary" as possible.

[69white hat]

 
Christ.

[TUFCAT]

I wasn't asking where you get your comments from or their value, but just wondering why it was necessary for a science lesson based off of someone else's smart remark when the discussion is about someone blowing the doors off of 8 semi's in an awesome Dart and getting his wrists slapped.

"Necessary"? There isn't a single post on this entire forum, from anyone, which is "necessary". But, if you want, for each post of yours which you can legitimately justify the "necessity" of, I'll justify the "necessity" of one of mine. Keep in mind that your specialty, i.e., peanut gallery-type comments, are as far from "necessary" as possible.

Your talking to a guy with over 18,000 posts (29 per day, 932 per month).... so I don't think a scientific study isn't needed to determine how many are "worthless".  

[J.Bond]

A different angle.....

What would be the acceptable rate of speed, deemed necessary, and safe, required to pass a slower vehicle. That law enforcement would allow?

And, If or because the lack of view caused by, say a transport , Like Drache stated, and you now are commited to passing because you are out in the incoming lane, and now notice more vehicles have to be passed. Now what. Speed up or abort? either could be life threatening.


Two months ago I found myself in that exact spot,  had to speed up a bit more to pass everyone, at  that last moment, I noticed the on coming traffic just ahead, and in front, was an OPP radar car, pulling back into my lane I glanced down at the speedo, 105Km in an 80Km . And thought Oh S--t. Not even brake lights on the radar car. I.am sure it depends on the Officer, however, there must be a number set somewhere.

[Ghoste]

I think its officer's discretion.  In the strictest definition of the law, you probably aren't allowed to pass in excess of the speed limit.

[Cooter]

I have no video so take this for what you paid for it. My brother back in 87, bought a 69 R/T Charger. 440/727/8 3/4/3.23.
We hadda buddy yacking about doin a 'buck50' in his 302 68 Mercury Cougar. While we all know it was an embellishment, my brother was kinda like Maximum overdrive here, he took it literally and proceeded to show "Goose" (his long neck is why we named him that), how wrong he was.

I'm in the back seat, Goose is shotgun and my brother driving. Car got to about 110 on the 2 bbl.
he says "you wanna see 150 mph Goose?"
He stabs it. Needle going down. Gets to around 143 mph, and tops out. All it would do. He says "watch this".

He turns the wheel from about 11:00 to 2:00, and car never steered. I said set it back down on the road, and lemme out. Never did that ever again. If a damn dog had run out, we'd have been dead.

[triple_green]

Do you have tac in your car? How m,any RPMs were you pushing? What is the rearend ratio.

Even though the Dart is an aerodynamic brick, with enough HP it can be made to go that fast.