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Started by panhead, April 13, 2014, 03:02:33 PM

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panhead

Looking for some insight and/or feed back on all-metal. I've never used this stuff.

Thanks
Curt
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69' Dodge Daytona "Replica"

b5blue

I like it! Spreads nice and creamy and hard as a rock cured. I used it in problem areas patching my car back together and it seems to be holding up good. Just be sure it's fresh stock as it goes crappy even in a sealed can over time!  :2thumbs:

73rallye440magnum

I like to use All Metal on weld joints/seams (panel patches, roof/sail panel joint) and then skim with filler to finish.

Why? Following advice of jobbers/reps.

Yes, always use a fresh can. I'm looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say.
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I've found it rather hard, ideally used as a base filler. I used it on the rear valence corners taking up the larger gaps I had in unseen areas.
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panhead

Quote from: 73rallye440magnum on April 13, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
I like to use All Metal on weld joints/seams (panel patches, roof/sail panel joint) and then skim with filler to finish.

Why? Following advice of jobbers/reps.

Yes, always use a fresh can. I'm looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say.

I'm repairing some lead joints on my car, and looking into all-metal to replace the lead in some areas. I've talked to some people local to me and about it and no one has used it. I did hear it has a shelf life from the paint supplier I use and was told to be ready to use most of it,if not all for it will get hard once opened. I also was wondering how hard it is to work. Thanks for the insight.

Curt
69' Dodge Charger 500
69' Dodge Daytona "Replica"

Dino

Quote from: panhead on April 14, 2014, 07:36:52 AM
Quote from: 73rallye440magnum on April 13, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
I like to use All Metal on weld joints/seams (panel patches, roof/sail panel joint) and then skim with filler to finish.

Why? Following advice of jobbers/reps.

Yes, always use a fresh can. I'm looking forward to hearing what everyone else has to say.

I'm repairing some lead joints on my car, and looking into all-metal to replace the lead in some areas. I've talked to some people local to me and about it and no one has used it. I did hear it has a shelf life from the paint supplier I use and was told to be ready to use most of it,if not all for it will get hard once opened. I also was wondering how hard it is to work. Thanks for the insight.

Curt

Lead is soft, all metal becomes as hard as a rock.  You can mix up a ball of the stuff, drill a hole in it, tap threads and insert a bolt.  Keep tightening it and the bolt will break before the all metal gives way.

You cannot use all metal as a feather filler.  You need to fill and scrape.  I sand the stuff with a P36 grit on a grinder and finish with a file. 

The reason it dries out is usually because people do not mix up the contents of a new can so the top is nice and moist while the remaining 2/3 is dry.  Mix the all metal with the oil in the can every time you are going to use it.  Store it airtight and in a cool place.  Fridge works well.  Make sure you use the correct amount of hardener.  Too much of it and it won't dry properly as with most fillers.

If you are keeping the stock C pillar seam then this stuff is the way to go.
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mpd659

I have used it and it think it is good stuff, but it sands pretty hard using 80 grit sandpaper.

Russ

Indygenerallee

Used it for a long time, good stuff. definitely a base filler for joints.
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panhead

Thanks for all the input, I believe I'll try this stuff out.

Thanks

Curt
69' Dodge Charger 500
69' Dodge Daytona "Replica"

b5blue

Check it at the counter or as soon as it arrives! It should be very smooth with no lumps, my local vendor always opens the can and checks it before ringing it up. When it's good it's fine, if lumpy you DO NOT want it!  :2thumbs:

Silver R/T

Great product if used properly
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The stuff is basically bondo with a big percentage of powdered metal mixed in.  It acts a lot more like metal than regular bondo when it's dry.  Very hard, no flex, doesn't want to sand easily, etc.