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69 dash Harness

Started by Just 6T9 CHGR, May 12, 2013, 09:12:58 AM

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Just 6T9 CHGR

Took the plunge & used the 30% off mothers day code (MOTHER) at Year One & bought a dash harness.  $375 shipped to my door.

Any one have any tips/tricks of doing this while the dash assy is in the car?

Over the years I have added a few things to the electrical system myself so I guess I am guilty of hacking the harness as much as the previous owners....I just hope I can get everything to work again!  ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Mopar Nut

 :2thumbs:  I want to do the same thing with mine.
:popcrn:
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

lukedukem

Me three. I have mine in my shop ready to install. I removed my instrument cluster (to fix Burt ammeter, other thread) and radio.  Next I'm gonna see about taking glove box apart, if possible. Should be able to get it then. I'm hoping to start this week on it. If so I'll try to post picks and tips.

Luke

1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

tan top

 remove steering column  , ((( could remove heater box instead , but column is easier & quicker )) ,   other wise you cant get to the back of the firewall block connector , to press / clip it into the fire wall  , & i found it in the way , (driver seat for room ) ,   also best to remove radio , will free up more space to get your arm /hand in there  :yesnod: , then remove the normal stuff , instrument -gauge cluster !! glove box liner , ash tray , passenger & driver  kick panels  , etc heater / A/C ducting
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Chryco Psycho

OR at least just drop the column down to get the dash face out , that is where most of the wiring is centered anyway , , I would remove the bulhead plug first then drop the column & install the bulkhead plug last after everything else is connected

Just 6T9 CHGR

Sounds like a plan guys.  Should be pretty much straight forward.  Hardest thing will be trying to get all my other do-dads to work again ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Chryco Psycho

you have the Tri plugs using bullet connectors to add to or you can connect to the rear of the fuse block with the male female double connector terminals

lukedukem

So I started on this harness and I took the new one out of the package and put it on the dash and started to match connectors just to see where they go blah, blah. I might be asking a dumb one but were are the dash bulbs on my new harness. The dash bulbs come outta my old one but none on the new one.  Is there a separate harness?

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

SwiftJonny

I just did the dash harness in my car on Saturday. Took off the glove box door & hinges then removed the glovebox carefully from the front. Pulled the radio out, then pulled out the gauge cluster. Once these were out, there was plenty of room. It was pretty easy. I took my seats out too so I had some room in there. I used the Year One harness. I was thinking this would be really complicated, it was easy. I also pre-marked all the wires by following the schematic, but it probably isn't necessary.
1968 Charger R/T 440 4 Speed
Racing Green Metallic

JB400


Fred

Quote from: SwiftJonny on May 13, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
I just did the dash harness in my car on Saturday. Took off the glove box door & hinges then removed the glovebox carefully from the front. Pulled the radio out, then pulled out the gauge cluster. Once these were out, there was plenty of room. It was pretty easy. I took my seats out too so I had some room in there. I used the Year One harness. I was thinking this would be really complicated, it was easy. I also pre-marked all the wires by following the schematic, but it probably isn't necessary.


With wires hanging out in all directions when you pull it out, it looks mind boggling doesn't it?  But you soon realise it's amazingly straight forward and not that hard to put back together again.
Great job  :2thumbs:


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

lukedukem

Quote from: SwiftJonny on May 13, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
I just did the dash harness in my car on Saturday. Took off the glove box door & hinges then removed the glovebox carefully from the front. Pulled the radio out, then pulled out the gauge cluster. Once these were out, there was plenty of room. It was pretty easy. I took my seats out too so I had some room in there. I used the Year One harness. I was thinking this would be really complicated, it was easy. I also pre-marked all the wires by following the schematic, but it probably isn't necessary.

where did you get the schematic, what about the dash light sockets.

Quote from: lukedukem on May 13, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
So I started on this harness and I took the new one out of the package and put it on the dash and started to match connectors just to see where they go blah, blah. I might be asking a dumb one but were are the dash bulbs on my new harness. The dash bulbs come outta my old one but none on the new one.  Is there a separate harness?

Luke

i'm having issues that might not be for some others. :rotz:

luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Just 6T9 CHGR

I havent gotten my harness yet but I would assume there should be sockets for the instrument cluster lights in the harness?

The part # I got from Year One was Part Number: HU274B
Dash harness, 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil gauge, reproduction.

Quote from: SwiftJonny on May 13, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
I just did the dash harness in my car on Saturday. Took off the glove box door & hinges then removed the glovebox carefully from the front. Pulled the radio out, then pulled out the gauge cluster. Once these were out, there was plenty of room. It was pretty easy. I took my seats out too so I had some room in there. I used the Year One harness. I was thinking this would be really complicated, it was easy. I also pre-marked all the wires by following the schematic, but it probably isn't necessary.

Thanks Jonny, it does look pretty straight forward.   My car is an AC car so it might be a little different with some of the duct work in the way.   Im gonna start tearing into it within the next few days
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


gsniegow


I just finished mine last month.  Light sockets were included in the YO harness, no bulbs, as expected.

I think the key bits of advice have been given already.  I researched allot as well and the only area I did not cover in my research was the light group that my car was optioned with.  I did not understand how the terminals piggybacked off of one another so I ended up damaging one of the terminals.  It wasn't a big deal as I just rearranged them and made it work.

Once I had mine out I inspected it and was VERY glad I made the investment.  I had several terribly hacked up lines in there but worst yet was where the factory soldered many wires together, that entire piece was falling apart and had many exposed wires.  Not sure if that was from previous owners or not but the very next day I went to the store and picked up a fire extinguisher!  Yeah, I have new wires now for the dash and engine bay but I still have the forward lights, rear lights, and interior wires. 

Good luck!

lukedukem

Quote from: gsniegow on May 14, 2013, 07:24:46 AM

I just finished mine last month.  Light sockets were included in the YO harness, no bulbs, as expected.

I think the key bits of advice have been given already.  I researched allot as well and the only area I did not cover in my research was the light group that my car was optioned with.  I did not understand how the terminals piggybacked off of one another so I ended up damaging one of the terminals.  It wasn't a big deal as I just rearranged them and made it work.

Once I had mine out I inspected it and was VERY glad I made the investment.  I had several terribly hacked up lines in there but worst yet was where the factory soldered many wires together, that entire piece was falling apart and had many exposed wires.  Not sure if that was from previous owners or not but the very next day I went to the store and picked up a fire extinguisher!  Yeah, I have new wires now for the dash and engine bay but I still have the forward lights, rear lights, and interior wires. 

Good luck!

ok, well i guess i have the wrong harness. mine didn't come with light sockets. this was my desrciption

HU271B Dash harness, 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil light, reproduction.

please HELP ME

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Mopar Nut

Quote from: lukedukem on May 14, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
ok, well i guess i have the wrong harness. mine didn't come with light sockets. this was my desrciption

HU271B Dash harness, 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil light, reproduction.

please HELP ME

Luke
Where did you purchase the harness?
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

lukedukem

Quote from: Mopar Nut on May 14, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: lukedukem on May 14, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
ok, well i guess i have the wrong harness. mine didn't come with light sockets. this was my desrciption

HU271B Dash harness, 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil light, reproduction.

please HELP ME

Luke
Where did you purchase the harness?

year one

luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Mopar Nut

Send it back, I heard they are real good on that.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

lukedukem

Quote from: Mopar Nut on May 14, 2013, 09:22:47 AM
Send it back, I heard they are real good on that.

so i have the wrong harness. even though its for 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body. or do you think they screwed up the harness

luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

lukedukem

i called M&H who makes the harness and they told me that you ru-use the light sockets

Quote from: gsniegow on May 14, 2013, 07:24:46 AM

I just finished mine last month.  Light sockets were included in the YO harness, no bulbs, as expected.

Good luck!


so your harness came with the sockets from year one. WTF
now i'm really confused
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Rolling_Thunder

sounds like a fun project
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

lukedukem

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on May 14, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
sounds like a fun project

no, for me a night mare.  :lol:

i seem to always order the wrong parts. is there a part ordering guru on our site. :smilielol:

i need to mention that i hijacked Just 6T9 CHGR's thread.... :slap:

1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

tan top

Quote from: lukedukem on May 14, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
Quote from: gsniegow on May 14, 2013, 07:24:46 AM

I just finished mine last month.  Light sockets were included in the YO harness, no bulbs, as expected.

I think the key bits of advice have been given already.  I researched allot as well and the only area I did not cover in my research was the light group that my car was optioned with.  I did not understand how the terminals piggybacked off of one another so I ended up damaging one of the terminals.  It wasn't a big deal as I just rearranged them and made it work.

Once I had mine out I inspected it and was VERY glad I made the investment.  I had several terribly hacked up lines in there but worst yet was where the factory soldered many wires together, that entire piece was falling apart and had many exposed wires.  Not sure if that was from previous owners or not but the very next day I went to the store and picked up a fire extinguisher!  Yeah, I have new wires now for the dash and engine bay but I still have the forward lights, rear lights, and interior wires.  

Good luck!

ok, well i guess i have the wrong harness. mine didn't come with light sockets. this was my desrciption

HU271B Dash harness, 1969 Plymouth and Dodge B-body models with oil light, reproduction.

please HELP ME

Luke
Quote from: lukedukem on May 14, 2013, 10:58:54 AM
i called M&H who makes the harness and they told me that you ru-use the light sockets

Quote from: gsniegow on May 14, 2013, 07:24:46 AM

I just finished mine last month.  Light sockets were included in the YO harness, no bulbs, as expected.

Good luck!


so your harness came with the sockets from year one. WTF
now i'm really confused


1969 B-Body dash harness part number HU271B is for the standard coronet / satellite / road runner dash with idiot lights , dont want this one for a charger

for a Charger / rallye dash is what Chris ordered / has HU274B  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Just 6T9 CHGR

I concur....we have gauges, not oil lights

Send it back & get the right one....you dont want to do it twice!
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


lukedukem

Yeah, once I saw the other part # I saw at year one it was for light and not gauge. Thanks to tan top and Chris. I'm going to call year one and order the write one.
Thanks

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC