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Opinions on Goodmark Quarter Skins?

Started by Monziac, April 09, 2013, 07:53:12 PM

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Monziac

I know AMD is the best, but does anyone have opinions on the Goodmark skins? I am not doing a concourse resto, just a nice driver.

Thanks,
Jon

Indygenerallee

The bodylines arent so great on some of the Goodmark panels, I put a set on a Challenger and I was not happy with the bodylines but this was before AMD. plus the AMD panels are thicker metal.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

charger_fan_4ever

Lines on the AMD's leave alot to be desired.

Depending on how bad your originals are I would buy a full 1/4 and cut out the sections you need for patches.

In my case I had no option my sail panel area,top skin and over the wheel even was all rotten. Figured even with small rot issues it would be quicker and a better job to change the whole 1/4. Not the case.

After all the fittment issues are overwith your left with wavy panels and bad lines, so you still need to give the (in my case) $2000 1/4's a coat of mud front to back and block it BEFORE you can even start applying high build primer and start blocking.

Indygenerallee

QuoteLines on the AMD's leave alot to be desired.
I have a set of full quarters for my 69 and yes, they are shit but compared to the Goodmark ones still alot better.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Mike DC


What good are decent body lines if the entire panel is shaped half an inch wrong in multiple places?   

The Goodmark quarter skins are shit.  Fixing bad body lines on the AMD panels is a minor problem in comparison. 


Finn

When I put 1/4s on my charger AMD didn't make them, so I used goodmark. Not only did I over pay for them being young and stupid, when I went to put them on I realized how screwed I really was. They were awful. Unless you have a shrinker/puller and a lot of time to put into making them work, Id go AMD. I bought a full fender from them and it was excellent.

1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

Indygenerallee

Yes my fenders from AMD were perfect I will give them that! Quarters I was not real happy with but as I stated before much better than Goodmark.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Monziac

Thanks guys, so yes on Goodmark :icon_smile_big: Just Kidding....

Jon

Charger-Bodie

The goodmark panels are fine if you need both lower patch panels, but they are horid if installing the entire skin.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Monziac

Wow, I just got my AMD skins and what a piece of crap..... Cant wait to start bondo on this... Metal guage is nice, but wavy as hell and I could have drawn better body lines drunk with an air chisel. This should be fun!

Finn

Mind posting some pics? I'd be curious to compare them to the goodmarks.
1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

Patronus

Weird how the quarters on the Charger from AMD needed so much work. These Ebody ones fit so well you dont even need to weld em..
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Ryan

Quote from: Monziac on June 24, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
Wow, I just got my AMD skins and what a piece of crap..... Cant wait to start bondo on this... Metal guage is nice, but wavy as hell and I could have drawn better body lines drunk with an air chisel. This should be fun!

They typically are a little wavy but the way you describe them sounds worse then they usually are. Try calling AMD before you get to far into it. They may send you another set.


Quote from: Patronus on June 25, 2013, 10:23:03 PM
Weird how the quarters on the Charger from AMD needed so much work. These Ebody ones fit so well you dont even need to weld em..


Ya it's rediculous how well the e-body cuda quarters fit compared to the charger quarters. It's really to bad that they are capable of making some seriously good stuff but the quality is just not consistent across the board.
69 charger r/t Triple Black
   572 HEMI, Passion 5 speed, 4.10 Dana under construction

2014 viper TA

Monziac

I will post pics when I get home, but very dissapointed considering how expensive they are. Goodmark quarters were straighter but not as sharp, nor as heavy guage steel, but I venture to say would have been less work. I order my parts through a local body shop to avoid shipping charges so I would have to go through them.
Thanks,
Jon

green69rt

It seems that the parts I have bought thru AMD vary some in fitup.  Some went in with almost no work, such as my quarters and wheel wells, some were a bugger (front floor), some had a poor finish (my front frame rails had a layer of dirt under the EDP!!)  Seems like their quality control is hit-or-miss.    Also I would guess that some of their parts are cloned off of parts they have borrowed from old cars rather than built from drawings and specs.  If so then the new parts depend on the old parts being straight and true.   As for having straight panels with no waves it seems that with todays technology the that should be a given!!   :Twocents:

Still, for a  lot of parts they are the only source so we have to take what they give and complain...

Ryan

Quote from: Monziac on June 26, 2013, 08:07:46 AM
I will post pics when I get home, but very dissapointed considering how expensive they are. Goodmark quarters were straighter but not as sharp, nor as heavy guage steel, but I venture to say would have been less work. I order my parts through a local body shop to avoid shipping charges so I would have to go through them.
Thanks,
Jon

I almost always purchase AMD from other vendors, I still deal with AMD directly when I have an issue with the product. Never had a problem with them taking care of it providing there was something they could do. My passenger side full quarter seemed wavy compared to my drivers side so I called them, they sent me a new one for free. The new one was a little better but still had its flaws.
That being said I'd rather have a thicker gauge panel on my car with a little mud on it then a thin gauge panel like the goodmark quarters.
69 charger r/t Triple Black
   572 HEMI, Passion 5 speed, 4.10 Dana under construction

2014 viper TA

Monziac

Thats good to know Ryan, this is my first time dealing with them, and also my first Mopar.  Generally as a company gets your money they dissapear, so anymore I dont even get my pulse raised because I know how it is gonna end.  Capturing the wavy in the panel is hard to see, but look at the body line how it goes up and down, and there is a blue X in back where the whole back is pressed inward.  Its obviously all fixable, but the reason I am replacing the quarter is because it is damaged not because I want to start hitting it with shrinking hammers and dollies and applying filler over the whole panel to get it straight.  I will call them and see what they have to say. 

Thanks,
Jon

Monziac

I just called AMD and they said this is a phenomenon they have been seeing and that they think the tool is screwed up.  They said it is only on the right side, but confirmed they are having a quality issue on the panels.  He is gonna look around for a better panel for me.  I have to say, I didn't expect such a warm welcome when it came to complaining about their quality.  Then again, I wasn't a jerk about it either....   :2thumbs:  I will let you knwo how it turns out, but you may want to post a thread out in the forum so people know the quality issue they are having.  I am the new guy.... Nobody trust the new guy when he is complaining.   Ha! 

Thanks,
Jon

Mike DC

 
That's impressive that they will admit to a screwy tool.  Most companies will swear it's anything other than a defect rooted in the tooling or production method, even if it means claiming the same temporary problem for 20 years (Legendary interiors). 


Monziac

I agree, I was surprised at his honesty, but appreciated it. He is sending me another quarter but said he couldn't find one without flaws. I told him just to find the best one he can. At least they are trying.
Jon

Patronus

I too had a heck of a time with the right Charger quarter. Pretty bad rear of the wheel opening to the marker hole.
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Monziac

New panel showed up, and its as bad as the first. I see on their website, the panels are now "out of stock".  It did have a "made in taiwan" sticker on it, so I was dissapointed in that.....

Jon

Indygenerallee

Mine looked the same way, The fitment is great just alot of waves, it's gonna take hours upon hours of repeated blocking to get these things mirror straight  :rotz:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Monziac

I would almost prefer to buy a rotten quarter, repair it and put it on...... This is pathetic. Cant believe they are selling this, and at a premium..

Mike DC

 
QuoteI would almost prefer to buy a rotten quarter, repair it and put it on...... This is pathetic. Cant believe they are selling this, and at a premium..

I'll send you a rotten used quarter panel in exchange for your wavy AMD one.  Deal? 



The same panel made in the USA would cost a couple thousand dollars each.  Classic Body Designs produced it a few years ago.  The public voted with their wallets.  People didn't like spending $4-5k just for a set of good quarters.