6 year old killed by wood chipper. Ct

[Darkman]

I'm sure the husband has no will to work.

I bet he has probably lost the will to live.

[1969chargerrtse]

I'm sure the husband has no will to work.

I bet he has probably lost the will to live.

Yeah they say the dad was real close with the kids.  They did road races as a family and church going. 

[Magnumcharger]

The article said the child was pronounced dead at the scene.
Really? That had to be said?

I used to take my daughter out for a drive on my Yamaha 250 Quad. Seemed pretty safe...until I went up the side of a ditch and almost rolled backwards. Would have probably killed her, even with a helmet on.

I sold the quad not long afterwards. Not taking those kinds of chances with my kids.

[1969chargerrtse]

The article said the child was pronounced dead at the scene.
Really? That had to be said?

I used to take my daughter out for a drive on my Yamaha 250 Quad. Seemed pretty safe...until I went up the side of a ditch and almost rolled backwards. Would have probably killed her, even with a helmet on.

I sold the quad not long afterwards. Not taking those kinds of chances with my kids.

On the news they said and ambulance was called, but then cancelled.  

Ya never know what and when something can happen no matter how safe you are. My daughter and her boyfriend and my little 8 year old were just riding around my yard an hour ago.  I do put my bike helmet on the little guy. It's all grass and they ride slow and safe, because I'm watching!

[myk]

I can't even read the article.  I mean...you could almost feel the ugly fate that awaits tree branches as they're fed into that awful machine, nevermind a human being.  Do you guys think this child felt anything, suffered at all, if even for a split second?  

[Fred]

I'd like to believe not. The pain is not immediate, it comes a little later and by then (and it pains me to say it) he would have been gone.
It turns my stomach just thinking about it.

[1969chargerrtse]

I can't think about either.  I'm sure he didn't know what happened at all. When I was  first thinking about it I couldn't sleep.  I tossed all night, made me sick.  I heard people that knew the boy were throwing up, imagine his teacher or school mates and the empty desk.  Just un thinkable.  I try to put things in perspective if I can and I told myself Imagine the 204,000!!!! people, mostly women and children swept away in the tsunami?  Life really sucks at times.

[Dino]

I think it's time to let this thread go guys, this is way too painful.

[Road Dog]

I hug my little boy (5 1/2) every day and a little tighter after reading things like this.

[gtx6970]

This is painfull to even just write, I can only imagine the pain in the fathers heart. And I will hug my girls today in this childs memory.
The title of this thread alone kept me from even opening the article, Almost didn't open this thread in fear of details being posted here.  I will sleep better not knowing any more details.

Should something like this happen to my family,, I couldn't live with that kind of grief on my heart 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year

[Mike DC]

             
Not to sound callous but I think you guys are getting too swept up by this thing.  Yeah it's grisly and sad but so are a lot of things. 

The child is dead.  There's no getting hurt any worse once you reach that point. He's not "more dead" because his body was more destroyed than some people upon their death.  It's the same result if he had bumped the back of his head on a bicycle and left his parents a nice cute body for an open-casket funeral.  Either way the life is gone and what's buried is going to be recycled by nature pretty quickly.   


People & animals die in accidental ways every day by the millions.  I can think of worse ways to go than this one.  This one had to be very quick and that's what counts IMHO.

[TheGhost]

Its not the child I feel the most for.  Its the people who saw this.  The father, the EMTs, and anyone else.  I know I wouldn't be able to sleep decently for a long time if it was me.

[jwramc]

Some interesting points so far. My 15-year-old nephew lost his best friend about a year ago this same way in Poquoson, VA.

He was out working with dad on a job, and was using a shovel to push brush and such into the maw. The shovel got tangled and pulled in, and in the instant it was grabbed, it twisted around, the handle of the shovel now tangle his hand in it, and the kid just followed the shovel in.

I agree the fathers were total fuckups for the dismissal of basic safety. ONLY an adult should be feeding that beast. But stupid is very much a default position for humans, as we just think we're gonna live forever 'til circumstances prove us wrong. Kids are even worse with this.

I myself have stood at that maw a few times, and every time I did, I followed the manual exactly- I stood WAY back and to the side and THREW the branches in. And the sooner I could get away from it, the better. You don't get to react on the high-speed units. You might think to say 'oh, shit' when it gets you...but you'll be lucky to get the 'oh' out before you're dispatched from the other end.

[1969chargerrtse]

Some interesting points so far. My 15-year-old nephew lost his best friend about a year ago this same way in Poquoson, VA.

He was out working with dad on a job, and was using a shovel to push brush and such into the maw. The shovel got tangled and pulled in, and in the instant it was grabbed, it twisted around, the handle of the shovel now tangle his hand in it, and the kid just followed the shovel in.

I agree the fathers were total fuckups for the dismissal of basic safety. ONLY an adult should be feeding that beast. But stupid is very much a default position for humans, as we just think we're gonna live forever 'til circumstances prove us wrong. Kids are even worse with this.

I myself have stood at that maw a few times, and every time I did, I followed the manual exactly- I stood WAY back and to the side and THREW the branches in. And the sooner I could get away from it, the better. You don't get to react on the high-speed units. You might think to say 'oh, shit' when it gets you...but you'll be lucky to get the 'oh' out before you're dispatched from the other end.

OMG a 15 year too.  Man that is gross.  You just can't help picturing it.

[1969chargerrtse]

           
Not to sound callous but I think you guys are getting too swept up by this thing.  Yeah it's grisly and sad but so are a lot of things.  

The child is dead. There's no getting hurt any worse once you reach that point. He's not "more dead" because his body was more destroyed than some people upon their death. It's the same result if he had bumped the back of his head on a bicycle and left his parents a nice cute body for an open-casket funeral. Either way the life is gone and what's buried is going to be recycled by nature pretty quickly.    


People & animals die in accidental ways every day by the millions.  I can think of worse ways to go than this one. This one had to be very quick and that's what counts IMHO.

Yeah a little on the hard side, but you make good points.  I thought the same thing, try not to dwell on how it happened, like the 200,000 swept out to sea. Dead is dead. It's just hard not to picture it in your head, and when you do it's sickinning to the max.  The story does matter.  A 50 year old druggy dying by drugs and a cute little 6 year old helping dad, and ground up in a shredder and splattered all over the yard are different to the heart even though they are both dead.

[jwramc]

Wow, my story was actually 2.5 years ago, and it was his UNCLE he was working with. Just imagine making that call to your sister.

http://www.wvec.com/news/local/Poquoson-teen-dies-in-woodchipper-accident-71118177.html

Researching further, this uncle REALLY pushed the envelope for blatant negligence.

"Police said he was using a shovel to drop debris into the wood chipper's hopper when it got caught in the machine's blades, dragging him in and killing him instantly.
The Va. Department of Labor and Industry issued its findings Thursday, saying the machine shouldn't have been used.
"The wooden paddle was missing, the feet control was missing, the lower door hadn't been installed. There were six things missing," said Jennifer Wester, Cooperative Programs director."

The official report-
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/woodchipperdeath_citation.pdf

[1969chargerrtse]

Wow, my story was actually 2.5 years ago, and it was his UNCLE he was working with. Just imagine making that call to your sister.

http://www.wvec.com/news/local/Poquoson-teen-dies-in-woodchipper-accident-71118177.html

Researching further, this uncle REALLY pushed the envelope for blatant negligence.

"Police said he was using a shovel to drop debris into the wood chipper's hopper when it got caught in the machine's blades, dragging him in and killing him instantly.
The Va. Department of Labor and Industry issued its findings Thursday, saying the machine shouldn't have been used.
"The wooden paddle was missing, the feet control was missing, the lower door hadn't been installed. There were six things missing," said Jennifer Wester, Cooperative Programs director."

The official report-
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/woodchipperdeath_citation.pdf

70,000 in fines

[jwramc]

Yea, but another article said that was cut in half in a deal, and all but $1000 of it was suspended for 5 years... likely erased if he doesn't shred another relative in that time.

So his stupidity resulted in his nephew's life being valued at $1000. 

[General_01]

Pretty sad. The Dad and the Uncle in each incident are scarred for life. Walking zombies who will forever never truly have a joyous moment in their life. They may laugh at jokes and learn to smile, but there will never be joy in their hearts again. Maybe that's a fate worse than jail or death.

[ACUDANUT]

I agree

[1969chargerrtse]

Yeah and like mentioned before, it could be an auto accident or anything else, if you could of prevented it, it's a heavy toll to pay forever. Still to lose your own 6 year old and in a un speakable manner, I don't know how I could go on but the other two need daddy also. Yuk. I almost killed my niece twice in my lifetime. You never know.