MCG March 2012 Proto 69 Daytona story online

[nascarxx29]

For me the story answered alot of questions. I had suspected on the double vin 287970 Dale Reeker daytona.
And even more convincing info its also the playboy car aswell

[Golden-Arm]

it's mcg. you don't need facts, just some pics, a half vast theory, and tie it all together with a swag. voila, you know have the "facts", fitted to print. speculation doesnt make it so. only PROVEN, DOCUMENTED FACTS make it so. see the difference?

[nascarxx29]

The facts are the 287970 car had 2 vins and was engineered outside the regular daytona techniques.And that no writers embellishment.

[pettybird]

it's mcg. you don't need facts, just some pics, a half vast theory, and tie it all together with a swag. voila, you know have the "facts", fitted to print. speculation doesnt make it so. only PROVEN, DOCUMENTED FACTS make it so. see the difference?

reference the mod top fiasco for more 'proof.'


also, go ahead and fact check any of the 'enviro masochism' stories...it's the whole truth every month there, too.

[Tom Q]

Could we discuss the message and stop killing the messenger??

Repeating myself:

Based on the information [evidence] presented  and a good understanding of the car building culture of those times they present a very compelling case.  The car had 2 vins, clearly shown proving  beyond a reasonable doubt.
it was the first built - last sold.  [There is an official list]  They figured out how they got the daytona creators obtained the "mule" car and they show us the trail.  Those of you who are wing car aficionados should  already know of the confusion and poor workmanship these cars received to get them out the door in a timely fashion.  
The rules listed in the previous post are for the "production" Daytonas, not the engineering Daytona in the story.
The fender scoop issues seems to be resolved in the article.

Besides parading out the assembly sequence for the production cars and some long held opinions what else do you have?.

[Tom Q]

Leslie Bowman is a well known person in the winged car world
He took the car apart in 1975 and painted it red.  

1975  it's a used car and nothing else.

Guy Rizik buys the car and later in life gives to his nephew John

John looks at the car pedigree and discovers it's a car that was reassigned a VIN by the FACTORY
Hard Evidence

The fender tag and bc sheet clearly show a scheduled build date of Feb 07,1969
NASCAR  history of the daytona's clearly proves the hurry up, we need to get the cars built to meet the homologation  requirements. Homologation is the approval process a vehicle, race track or standardized part must go through to race in a given league or series. The regulations and rules that must be met are generally set by the series' sanctioning body.

"Interviews with countless employees"

There is so much more.  I am not going to list the rest of it
Come on let's fight over the facts.
I am calling you guys out to fight [discuss the facts] with no malice intended.  ok??
Please let's discuss the facts  

[hemi68charger]

One question: How could the photographed Daytona be an "SE" if there is adored with "Charger" script on the roof and not the "SE" medallion? I doubt very seriously the Dodge and Creative would have "screwed" up so much on this car.

One observation: The color of the rear package tray in the photo is green, not black.. Can I prove it, nope... But, my "experiences" with looking at countless photo ads from the "day" say if the interior in the photographed Daytona was black, the package tray, even in the sunlight through the rear window, would have been darker......

[pettybird]

Leslie Bowman is a well known person in the winged car world
He took the car apart in 1975 and painted it red.  

1975  it's a used car and nothing else.

Guy Rizik buys the car and later in life gives to his nephew John

John looks at the car pedigree and discovers it's a car that was reassigned a VIN by the FACTORY
Hard Evidence

The fender tag and bc sheet clearly show a scheduled build date of Feb 07,1969
NASCAR  history of the daytona's clearly proves the hurry up, we need to get the cars built to meet the homologation  requirements. Homologation is the approval process a vehicle, race track or standardized part must go through to race in a given league or series. The regulations and rules that must be met are generally set by the series' sanctioning body.

"Interviews with countless employees"

There is so much more.  I am not going to list the rest of it
Come on let's fight over the facts.
I am calling you guys out to fight [discuss the facts] with no malice intended.  ok??
Please let's discuss the facts  

what facts support it being the car used in the Playboy photo shoot?

and

what the hell are you arguing for?  I don't mean 'do you have a point' I mean 'what IS your point?'

[nascarxx29]

We havent seen its buildsheet .What does it say for interior color.And what it shows for tire rim combo.Playboy car shows redlines
  Looking around researching  I have found more early 69 cars with the black door button pushes .And they are on the playboy article car.
http://wwnboa.org/jpgs/specfeatbh1.jpg

[pettybird]

here is a photo of the Rizek Ex Dale Reeker dodge garage #501 daytona I have.


I I I me me me.

[nascarxx29]

Another Dale Reeker daytona picture

[pettybird]

repost of a photo by Doug S at the Ford Museum.  might as well post this one in the thread with the blue daytona at best of show, too.

Here's a fresh one:

[moparstuart]

here is a photo of the Rizek Ex Dale Reeker dodge garage #501 daytona I have.


I I I me me me.

its always about you doug  always   

[Bashton]

I am happy to announce that this car will be shown at the upcoming Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals show in fully restored form November 17-18, 2012.

As many of you know, the car was featured in the center of the Finer Details display at our show last November. Ken Mosier and his crew are now well into the restoration of this car.

We look forward to hosting this car, along with many more Wing cars, Charger 500's, Talledega's, Cyclone Spoilers and Spoiler II's in our Aero Warriors Invitational display, hosted by Doug Schellinger and Jason Thompson.

If you own one of these cars or any related memorabilia, please consider joining us.

bashton426@gmail.com

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
www.mcacn.com

[#501]

I am happy to announce that this car will be shown at the upcoming Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals show in fully restored form November 17-18, 2012.

As many of you know, the car was featured in the center of the Finer Details display at our show last November. Ken Mosier and his crew are now well into the restoration of this car.

We look forward to hosting this car, along with many more Wing cars, Charger 500's, Talledega's, Cyclone Spoilers and Spoiler II's in our Aero Warriors Invitational display, hosted by Doug Schellinger and Jason Thompson.

If you own one of these cars or any related memorabilia, please consider joining us.

bashton426@gmail.com

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
www.mcacn.com

The car is still in my garage. I have talked to Ken but no commitment has been made to restore the car.

[pettybird]

just a tad of a disconnect there, eh?

[69_500]

I was about to send you a note and ask if that was true. I certainly hope you keep it the way it is. That however is just my opinion.

[moparstuart]

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