I just don't get the nerve of some people.....

[A383Wing]

the world would be a better place if one simple rule was followed:  Treat another mans car like you would his wife:   Don't make derogatory comments about it, don't lean on it...

  A few members here should follow that rule also. Not because I own a clone, but I have heard bad comments about my OE cars and other peoples cars as well over the years as well.

[69bronzeT5]

Cody,
Don't ever let me see you use the word "gorgeous" again.
Man card, hand it over.

[DAY CLONA]

Well - if it was simply a 66-71 Hemi class - then clones should be allowed...    if not then the people who put on the show need to me more specific...     then need to state "only factory hemi cars allowed, clones will compete in 66-71 restified" or something like that...        

Why should a factory hemi car win ? I say if the clone is nicer than the other cars then it deserves to win...     unless the descriptions dictate otherwise

finally, a voice of reason.. that car won fair and square, the class breakdown was'nt specific enough. I suspect that the event organizers didn't anticipate the clone factor when they set up the different class divisions

Exactly!......Having judged club car shows for decades, as well as some National events,....certain classes would not have the required number of entries, so the judges would approach ALL the car owners of a class to be combined, if all, or the majority were in agreement, then classes would be combined, example: E body stock with E body modified, or 66-7 Chargers with 68-70's, etc, etc, whatever was required to fill a class minimum, you can't have 3 places of win with 3 cars in class,....so in this case the modified/clones were grouped with the "stock" HEMI cars,....now whether the "stock" are true "originals" or rebodied, or Numbers matching, doesn't matter, the judging criteria would be point based, presentation, etc,...whatever may be defined in the club judging rules

What I always would find amazing is how civil everyone was with agreeing to class transformations, but at the end of the day, when modified/cloned cars beat out so-called "original" cars, the    would start, accusations would fly, judges being cursed at, just rediculous that a bunch of "mature" grown men would act like babies over a stupid award....


And what was always a constant, was the "numbers matching/original/survivor" crowd,...if they didn't pull a 1st place, or best of class, or best of show, in a mixed class judging event the undies got waded real quick!...modified/cloned guys always shrugged off a loss as no big deal......I think all the years I spent with judging these shows have jaded me towards having NO tolerance for the "numbers matching/ original/resto" crowd with the often "smug" attitudes, I know it's not ALL of them, but it certainly seems like it when there's no awards to take home

Mike