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Started by lilwendal, January 03, 2006, 08:11:43 PM

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TeeWJay426

Quote from: hemi68charger on January 04, 2006, 08:14:43 AM
Personally, I wouldn't touch it....  Since you're not keeping it......... First, there are less things you need to buy for the car. ... If the car's as clean as you say it is, then why paint it anyways....  If the car's as clean as you say it is, I WOULDN'T even paint it... Original cars are few and far in between. That will be, in my opinion, much more attractive to a serious buyer. I would rather see the original paint and pretty much know what's under there versus having a freshly painted car with indecision about any body work done. You know what's there, but the other person doesn't and they don't know you like you know yourself............   I say, leave it alone and try selling it that way first, you might be surprised.....

Troy

I agree.... if it really is an excellent original, why mess with it? Especially if you have no intenetion of keeping it??? :shruggy:
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

nh_mopar_fan

Leave it original.

pics? price?

lilwendal

Quote from: 89MOPAR on January 04, 2006, 01:34:04 AM
Quote from: lilwendal on January 03, 2006, 08:11:43 PM
     Everything is there, original   and in excellent condition. Build sheet, fender tag. Even wearing original paint.   This is going to be a very easy and quick resto.  

Hmmmn, I don't get it, if everything there is   ORIGINAL and in EXCELLENT condition -   WHY DOES IT NEED A RESTO ?????
  Certainly several things must not be excellent.   If you like bodywork and painting cars ,find a more likely candidate.

I would be scared to buy a car that the seller termed " a very easy and quik resto" . :-\
Maybe you are the exception and do great work at the speed of light...

I can't show you one Quality / Correct resto that was easy , cheap, and quik --- but I can show you a lot of fluff and buff jobs that don't hold up to the scrutiny of a knowledgeable enthusiast.

If you aren't in it for the money, sell the car to someone [unchanged]   who will lavish it with love instead -and work your magic on a Chevy
I guess I should have been more descriptive in my first post.  The car does need paint and a new vinyl top and other cosmetic items you would expect on a 38 year old car but is complete and in overall excellent condition. Anybody who has done a resto before knows the benifit of a car still in original paint.  Actually I should be saying never repainted. No 2 inch deep bondo no fiberglass patches.  What you see is what you get without suprises.  Now on to my definition of an easy resto.  The car I am working now requires lt and rt full quarters ,lt inner fender, all floor pans, trunk floors and extensions, rear glass panel and the entire tail panel. THIS IS NOT AN EASY RESTO! The car i just purchased needs just the lower quarter on one side repaired.  The difference is about 2 months worth of cutting, fitting  and welding.  Plus the replacement panels are not cheap either.  The car being complete is another element that will speed up the resto.  Sometimes finding that missing piece can be a challenge and if many parts are missing that runs up the cost quick. Please read my response #9 regarding why I do these cars and I've never seen a chevy product worth two seconds of my time.

lilwendal

I"ll add this because I believe some here are missing the point.  I dont flip cars and I dont polish turds. I purchase cars to restore because thats what I enjoy doing. Taking something that was neglected and worn and restoring it to its former glory.  When I'm done with a car I look at it like fine art and I'm proud of what I accomplished.  I have a full time job and my restorations are not income.  One project feeds the next.  Looking back to my original post it does seem like my motive is money but thats not what was intended. All I was looking for was members opinions on weither I should stick to the build sheet or not.

Afflyer

Option C with a Hemi or 440 4bbl.

Easily done.

:devil:
Retired USAF C-130H3, C-130E, MC-130E, MC-130W Flight Engineer

1969 Charger 440/4bbl "Hemi Orange Mistress"
2009 Hemi Ram 1500 Sport Special Crew Cab "Black Betty"
2011 BMW X5 3.5i "Heidi"

TeeWJay426

Quote from: lilwendal on January 04, 2006, 09:33:18 AM
I"ll add this because I believe some here are missing the point.  I dont flip cars and I dont polish turds. I purchase cars to restore because thats what I enjoy doing. Taking something that was neglected and worn and restoring it to its former glory.  When I'm done with a car I look at it like fine art and I'm proud of what I accomplished.  I have a full time job and my restorations are not income.  One project feeds the next.  Looking back to my original post it does seem like my motive is money but thats not what was intended. All I was looking for was members opinions on weither I should stick to the build sheet or not.

OK, in that case, since you won't be keeping it anyway, I'd go choice A- but that's just me. If I was in the market, that's what I'd want to be purchasing.
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

TK73

Quote from: 694spdRT on January 04, 2006, 12:01:41 AM
Quote from: Troy on January 03, 2006, 11:51:33 PM
Who said they cost $20k? :D

Troy


I just use an old restoration standby...take what you plan to spend and add another 25% and you might get it done.

I wouldn't be happy with the 14K version so I would need all the manifolds, carbs, etc. and then I would of course have to have a 18 spline 4 speed behind it as well so there's another $2-3K easy.

I better be careful or I might convince myself to do a '68 Hemi clone after all.  :P

Don't forget the DANA...  :icon_smile_big:
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

694spdRT

Quote from: TK73 on January 04, 2006, 10:27:44 AM
Quote from: 694spdRT on January 04, 2006, 12:01:41 AM
Quote from: Troy on January 03, 2006, 11:51:33 PM
Who said they cost $20k? :D

Troy


I just use an old restoration standby...take what you plan to spend and add another 25% and you might get it done.

I wouldn't be happy with the 14K version so I would need all the manifolds, carbs, etc. and then I would of course have to have a 18 spline 4 speed behind it as well so there's another $2-3K easy.

I better be careful or I might convince myself to do a '68 Hemi clone after all.   :P

Don't forget the DANA...   :icon_smile_big:

See how it snowballs....:yesnod:  ;)
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Nacho-RT74

My 2cents:

I would restore stock everything can not be get it back and upgrade everything can be easily get it back... for example:

would left the paint and vinyl as original...

4bbl, HP manifolds would it bee a nice upgrade but if you sell would include the original stock parts as part of the deal. ;)

you know what I mean ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Charger_Fan

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on January 04, 2006, 12:18:29 PM
My 2cents:

I would restore stock everything can not be get it back and upgrade everything can be easily get it back... for example:

would left the paint and vinyl as original...

4bbl, HP manifolds would it bee a nice upgrade but if you sell would include the original stock parts as part of the deal. ;)

you know what I mean ?
That's what I'd do too.

Besides, the ugly shade of yellow will look better when it's new paint. :)

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89MOPAR

 i thought about what I posted earlier Lilwendal.  I understand some resto's take a lot of bodywork / repllacement panels to get them right. Therefore some would be easy compared to others.
Just trying to help keep an original car original.
  Enjoy it as is, and let new , hopefully , long term owner decide.

Sorry about the Chevy comment - that was low !  :-[ :-X
77 Ram-Charger SE factory 440 'Macho' package
03 Ram Hemi 4x4 Pickup
Noble M400
72 Satellite Sebring Plus +

Blakcharger440

You have stated that the car is 100% complete but is it truly all original,like does it have the numbers matching engine and trans? Too me that would make a big difference on whether to keep the stock color or not as if the engine and trans are not original anyway then the "original value" is down already and I do not think that a different color would hurt much at that point.

viper r/t

 :iagree: But if it is #'s matching I would just keep for awhile and then sell without repainting, like what has been said before original cars are far and few in between.....

THE COLONEL

Quote from: viper r/t on January 04, 2006, 08:00:22 PM
:iagree: But if it is #'s matching I would just keep for awhile and then sell without repainting, like what has been said before original cars are far and few in between.....

I agree.  Re-sell it later, butkeep it original.  Originals are not that easy to find any more, and seem to bring more money in my opinion.
"THE COLONEL....DIFFERENT RANK...SAME ATTITUDE"