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Protect & serve, or teach them a lesson?

Started by Richard Cranium, January 05, 2011, 07:27:30 AM

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Richard Cranium

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chargerboy69

I read this story this morning, and was not that surprised.

My brother is on the FWPD, my brother-in-law is a Indiana State Conservation Officer, my cousin is on the FWPD. There are a lot of good officers out there doing a tough job.  With that being said, there are a few out there who love the power that comes with the job and will shove it in your face whenever they get the opportunity.  This is one of those guys, that gives the rest a bad name.
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elacruze

I think this single statistic says more about the 'above the law' attitude among police officers than any anecdotes I could relate.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-04-1Acopdeaths04_ST_N.htm
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stripedelete

I hate the "Barny" types too.  But, unless you live 200 Miles from the hospital the time difference between 85mph and 105mph is neglegible.  Reckless op.  Throw the book at him.  Next case. 

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Cooter

If this doesn't SCREAM Quota, I don't know what does...Musta needed that new beach house for the chief of police huh?

Of course, you kinda flip the coin on this and suppose your family was in an accident with this gentleman running 102 MPH and someone died?
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TeeWJay426

102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.
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elacruze

Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

I agree that the driver should have got the ticket. The officer could have forced them to stop, towed the car and called an ambulance for the wife-of course, then he'd have had to deliver the baby.

This guy endangered his family, and potentially anybody else on the road. Ticket Earned.
People have been having babies at home for what...150,000 years? Maybe he should have Googled a little on how to deliver a baby...just in case.
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last426

Quote from: Richard Cranium on January 05, 2011, 07:27:30 AM
I'd say that this Barney Fife wanna-be should change his name to Richard Cranium. 
http://www.necn.com/01/04/11/bNew-England-bHusband-of-woman-in-labor-/landing.html?blockID=384726&feedID=4206

An event that happened in 1972 kind of solidified my anti-cop feelings.  I am from Reno and some friends were swimming at Pyramid Lake when one of them, Mark about 25 years old, had a heart attack.  Clint and the rest of the family raced Mark back to the hospital in Reno.  Cop stopped and gave him a ticket while at the emergency room.  Clint and Mark both worked for me at a cruddy job -- and were great guys.  Good luck to both, where ever they are.  But it ain't easy driving 30 miles with a dead friend in the back seat with your family and all.  The ticket topped it off. By the way, this was before helicopters, and there were no ambulances at Pyramid.  Kim

bull

Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

:iagree: Yea, 102 is really pushing it IMO. "Getting them to safety" at 102 mph could easily be interpreted as a contradiction.

NHCharger

I agree with TWJ. I can see 85 maybe 90, but 102 on the cell with a wife in labor next to you  :rotz:. Every year here in NH there are always several collisions involving a car and a moose. All it would have taken was a wandering animal on the highway to turn this story in a 180ยบ direction.
A local cop would have written a ticket for a lower speed or given just a warning. The state troopers here love handing out tickets any chance they get.

Speaking of a-hole cops, check out this story.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13789869/teen-in-a-coma-after-accident-cited-for-jaywalking
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Quote from: elacruze on January 05, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

I agree that the driver should have got the ticket. The officer could have forced them to stop, towed the car and called an ambulance for the wife-of course, then he'd have had to deliver the baby.

This guy endangered his family, and potentially anybody else on the road. Ticket Earned.
People have been having babies at home for what...150,000 years? Maybe he should have Googled a little on how to deliver a baby...just in case.

:smilielol: :cheers:


bull

Quote from: NHCharger on January 05, 2011, 06:59:31 PM
Speaking of a-hole cops, check out this story.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13789869/teen-in-a-coma-after-accident-cited-for-jaywalking

It sounds heartless but most likely this was just a procedural thing to keep the person who smacked her out of the hotseat. Life goes on whether you're half dead or not and I'm sure the insurance companies were breathing down some necks trying to figure out who was going to get the bill. I'm sure that without an investigation and a prosecution/citation there can be no next step in the process. I bet if the driver was at fault the mom would have wanted to know that news asap and would have been hounding the officials to string him up.

learical1

Quote from: elacruze on January 05, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

I agree that the driver should have got the ticket. The officer could have forced them to stop, towed the car and called an ambulance for the wife-of course, then he'd have had to deliver the baby.

This guy endangered his family, and potentially anybody else on the road. Ticket Earned.
People have been having babies at home for what...150,000 years? Maybe he should have Googled a little on how to deliver a baby...just in case.

Read the story again.  "They had with them a letter from the midwife that states the baby's life could have been in danger had they not made it to the emergency room so quickly.  Kyle's precipitous birth left him black and blue. "  All 4 of my kids were home-births, delivered by the same midwife.  If our midwife had told me to get my wife to the hospital, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have driven as fast as conditions allow.  But I would not have fought the ticket, either.
Bruce

Bobs69

It's a tough call.  Protect & serve, yes.  Teach them a lesson?  Fu** them.  I believe part of their job is or should be educating the public, and promoting good public relations.  I notice that they didn't mention the officers name or interview him.

I think I'd be calling the cops first and asking for an escort, of course I haven't been in that situation, and the man didn't seam to have any regrets.

Then again that's what those bastards are counting on!  The common man not having time or energy to fight these tickets.  Just pay it!

elacruze

Quote from: learical1 on January 05, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: elacruze on January 05, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

I agree that the driver should have got the ticket. The officer could have forced them to stop, towed the car and called an ambulance for the wife-of course, then he'd have had to deliver the baby.

This guy endangered his family, and potentially anybody else on the road. Ticket Earned.
People have been having babies at home for what...150,000 years? Maybe he should have Googled a little on how to deliver a baby...just in case.

Read the story again.  "They had with them a letter from the midwife that states the baby's life could have been in danger had they not made it to the emergency room so quickly.  Kyle's precipitous birth left him black and blue. "  All 4 of my kids were home-births, delivered by the same midwife.  If our midwife had told me to get my wife to the hospital, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have driven as fast as conditions allow.  But I would not have fought the ticket, either.
OK, I missed the part where they already had a midwife at home. I'm sure I'd have done the same as he did, and I'd have taken the ticket knowing it was part of the deal. I guess I just don't like Cops.  :slap:
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stripedelete

Quote from: elacruze on January 06, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
Quote from: learical1 on January 05, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: elacruze on January 05, 2011, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: TeeWJay426 on January 05, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
102 mph? With his wife in labor next to him? And he's talking on a cell phone to boot?? Sounds like a potential recipe for disaster to me... fortunately it didn't happen. Just glad I wasn't on the same road at the same time.

I agree that the driver should have got the ticket. The officer could have forced them to stop, towed the car and called an ambulance for the wife-of course, then he'd have had to deliver the baby.

This guy endangered his family, and potentially anybody else on the road. Ticket Earned.
People have been having babies at home for what...150,000 years? Maybe he should have Googled a little on how to deliver a baby...just in case.

Read the story again.  "They had with them a letter from the midwife that states the baby's life could have been in danger had they not made it to the emergency room so quickly.  Kyle's precipitous birth left him black and blue. "  All 4 of my kids were home-births, delivered by the same midwife.  If our midwife had told me to get my wife to the hospital, you can bet your bottom dollar I would have driven as fast as conditions allow.  But I would not have fought the ticket, either.
OK, I missed the part where they already had a midwife at home. I'm sure I'd have done the same as he did, and I'd have taken the ticket knowing it was part of the deal. I guess I just don't like Cops.  :slap:

The letter from the mid-wife was presented in court - not pinned to his shirt while he was doing 102mph.

The husband/father was the over-the-top-guy  - not the cop.

80 MPH would have got them there just as quick and with much less risk to everyones lives.
It's reckless op all day long.  So man-up brother.  Pay the fiddler and enjoy your healthy kid.

RECHRGD

All in all, in the many decades I've been driving, I've only had one bad experience with a cop.  In 1969 I was driving down the Harbor freeway in So. Cal. toward San Pedro.  I had just sold the charger and was driving a new VW bug ( I know..I know). It was around 1:30am and there was very little traffic.  This was a 4 lane highway and I was going the speed limit in the lane just to the right of the fast lane.  I noticed some headlights getting close to my rear end, and closer and closer until it was right on my bumper.  I moved over to the next lane to the right and he again pulled in behind me, right on my bumper.  Why doesn't this guy just pass me??  I should have just slammed on the brakes, but being a 21 year old kid, I started accelerating to try and get this idiot off my tail.  By the time I hit 80+, on go the red lights.  The bastard tells me that "these little cars aren't made to go that fast and writes me up for going 75.  The bastard tried and succeeded in making me break the law just for kicks or to meet a quota or whatever.  It would have been my word against his in court, so I just paid the ticket.  If a cop pulled that stunt on me today, I sure as hell would find a way to nail his butt.
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bull

There are pricks in every profession and it seems the professions that put people in any position of power attract more pricks than others. Case in point: I've run across way more bitchy secretaries in my life than prick cops. You make a call to some business or pay them a visit and too often there's a big power struggle to get past the snide, arrogant gatekeeper before you can get anything done.

learical1

I heard on the news this morning that he was going 102 in a 55 zone on a freeway.  at 0 dark o'clock AM.  That does make a little more sense.
Bruce

Bobs69

Quote from: bull on January 06, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
There are pricks in every profession and it seems the professions that put people in any position of power attract more pricks than others. Case in point: I've run across way more bitchy secretaries in my life than prick cops. You make a call to some business or pay them a visit and too often there's a big power struggle to get past the snide, arrogant gatekeeper before you can get anything done.

You're right!  My god it's so obvious I never made the connection.

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Landonsrt

Wrongfully fired for being an alcoholic? Hmm, tried rehab? Stick him behind a desk!