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[hemi o]

Hi all,was curious as to what this bee "clone" is worth.seems alright but the paint could be hiding some lurgies underneath.
If anyone is close by I would appreciate if they could check it out for me.
I would compensate gas/time.
thanks Greg
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2084655189.html

[mauve66]

seems really cheap too me, of course i don't have any money anyway, plus you would have to spend another 2500 bucks to make the hood callout correct

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi,

it is already advertised since quite a while. I don't think it is cheap. In the current economy prices have come down a lot. For 14k$ you can nearly get a daily driver typ genuine Bee. This car has cometical flaws at least as the owner says himself it is "just" driver quality.

Carsten

[mauve66]

Hi,

it is already advertised since quite a while. I don't think it is cheap. In the current economy prices have come down a lot. For 14k$ you can nearly get a daily driver typ genuine Bee. This car has cometical flaws at least as the owner says himself it is "just" driver quality.

Carsten

where are those ads at??

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi,

here is a 68:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220703654919&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

here is a 69:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110611276436&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Think the 68 is more of a turd but the 69 is decent. Just to compare both are genuine Bees with fender tag

Carsten

[chargerboy69]

In the long run the car is just a Coronet 440 model.  The base model Coronet, so not really the deal of the century.  It is a nice looking car though. With that being said, I think somewhere in the $9000.00 range would not be out of line if the car is solid and the paint is good.


Here is a nice base Coronet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Dodge-Coronet-/150520351108?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item230bb64984

[mauve66]

of course this is only my .02 but your not comparing apples to apples here

both bees are 383 cars, so by super bee standards, only a base model, the orange car looks to be in ALOT better condition (even though it looks like the antennae is broke) AND a 440 with a DANA to boot, plus the orange car already has NEW wiring, new exhaust, new wheels and tires, brakes, carb, paint, alternator, dist, fan, radiator, carpet, gas tank, fuel lines, sending unit,  and transmission

of course an original super bee would be more desirable but look at what you have to put into these other cars to make them CLOSE to the condition of the orange one
and trust me, a 383 can't compare to a 440, and i've owned several 383's in my life

you noticed that these 2 bees haven't gotten a single bid?? thats because of the amount of work it would take to get them to the orange car standard.  the current owner may call the orange car a daily driver but those 2 bees are daily drivers in need of alot of TLC

the 68:
lots of rust under the vinyl top, you can see it bubbling, maybe even the window channel
seat cushions are completely wiped out
damage and rust on quarters
no radio
do i think its worth $14K, yes, but your gonna spend alot to get those things fixed

the 69:
lots of rust in quarters and window channel
fiberglass patch in trunk plus more rust in trunk
interior looks filthy, white is a bitch to keep clean and GET clean after its dirty, i'm betting you will have to replace it, but maybe not
do i think its worth $14K, see above

if i had $14K to spend, and had these 3 cars to pick from i would buy the orange car in a heartbeat, i've spent too many years with projects, so maybe i'm jaded
if your close by i would walk up with $10K cash and see what happens, it sounds like its too much car for the daughter and they want to trade it for a truck, probably with an ipod adaptor and a tv...........

[mauve66]

the other coronet has some personal cosmetic issues that would help it alot in my opinion, but as you can see it hasn't even made the reserve yet....................

[hemi o]

okay,thanks for the replies,realise its just a corronet but a real bee in that condition is way out of my price range.At the end of the day sometimes you are just paying for a tag if all you need is a good big block driver to have some fun in.
So is $14000 too much for this car?
Anyone know a good shop in the area to get it checked out for me.

[fc7_plumcrazy]

of course this is only my .02 but your not comparing apples to apples here

both bees are 383 cars, so by super bee standards, only a base model, the orange car looks to be in ALOT better condition (even though it looks like the antennae is broke) AND a 440 with a DANA to boot, plus the orange car already has NEW wiring, new exhaust, new wheels and tires, brakes, carb, paint, alternator, dist, fan, radiator, carpet, gas tank, fuel lines, sending unit,  and transmission

of course an original super bee would be more desirable but look at what you have to put into these other cars to make them CLOSE to the condition of the orange one
and trust me, a 383 can't compare to a 440, and i've owned several 383's in my life

you noticed that these 2 bees haven't gotten a single bid?? thats because of the amount of work it would take to get them to the orange car standard.  the current owner may call the orange car a daily driver but those 2 bees are daily drivers in need of alot of TLC

the 68:
lots of rust under the vinyl top, you can see it bubbling, maybe even the window channel
seat cushions are completely wiped out
damage and rust on quarters
no radio
do i think its worth $14K, yes, but your gonna spend alot to get those things fixed

the 69:
lots of rust in quarters and window channel
fiberglass patch in trunk plus more rust in trunk
interior looks filthy, white is a bitch to keep clean and GET clean after its dirty, i'm betting you will have to replace it, but maybe not
do i think its worth $14K, see above

if i had $14K to spend, and had these 3 cars to pick from i would buy the orange car in a heartbeat, i've spent too many years with projects, so maybe i'm jaded
if your close by i would walk up with $10K cash and see what happens, it sounds like its too much car for the daughter and they want to trade it for a truck, probably with an ipod adaptor and a tv...........

Hi Robert,

I agree that both Bees need work. That is why I called them drivers and the red 68 Bee even a possibly a turd. Not the 69 as it has mostly original paint.
I picked those two out for comparison as the prices are minimum prices and none with reserve. That means they could be had for 14k$.
Both need work depending in which direction you want to go. I was talking about "drivers".

A german guy has checked out the orange Coronet and gave a better description of it on a german Mopar message board.
He says the paintjob is cheap, the front end needs to be redone, needs all bushings and rubbers, too.
Headliner isn't nice, has some rust.

Here are some pics:
http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2362/cy383whf_jpg.htm
http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2362/l2gj6y5z_jpg.htm
http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2362/2yn4tppf_jpg.htm

You can see that the quarters have been repaired in the past, too with non correct sheetmetal.
Despite from that you wrote it has a 440 with Dana rearend. That is not correct. The rearend is a small 8 1/4 rearend not a Dana.

I agree that a correctly redone 440 to 67-69 HP standarts is faster than a 69 HP 383. But were is written that this 440 has got this power? Maybe it is just a 72&up 440 with 8,2 compression. Or a cheap summit engine rebuilt with low comp pistons? If that is the case an original 383 HP will be faster than it.

The orange Coronet is just a factory 318 car. It still has the small rearend installed. Still has the standart leaf springs. How about the rest of the chassis? Torsion bars, brakes etc?

It is just my opinion but I wouldn't buy a standart 318 Coronet with cheap paint, unkown 440, 318 chassis, rust (as nearly all old Mopars do have) if I can get a genuine Super Bee for the same money which is at least roadworthy and documented.

Carsten

[greenpigs]

okay,thanks for the replies,realise its just a corronet but a real bee in that condition is way out of my price range.At the end of the day sometimes you are just paying for a tag if all you need is a good big block driver to have some fun in.
So is $14000 too much for this car?
Anyone know a good shop in the area to get it checked out for me.

I think it is a little high, maybe a 10K car if not a bondo wagon.

[hemi o]

just got a email from the owner,1988 440 new torsion bars,81/4 diff,lots of interest but no sale yet,seems like a nice genuine guy.

[greenpigs]

Did you mean 78, 440?  An 8 1/4 diff thats asking for trouble down the road. Sounds like he cleaned out his garage and made the car...I would keep looking.

[mauve66]

the sheet metal looks fine to me from those pics, i don't worry about wherther or not they used the correct panel from another car or made it from scratch, its not a hemi cuda
of course you have to go inspect it yourself-i was going by the the video that says it had a dana in it
that 440 has a decent cam in it,
the springs are one of the cheapest and easiest things to replace, 318 torsion bars are great for drag racing or street driving -your not auto crossing the thing.
those particular things will have to be replaced on the bees' anyway due to their age and sagging

the mostly original paint car??  the ad clearly states that its worn through in many places, so the more you drive it the more the rust will start
and both of them look like they just came out of storage so you can't even say they are road worthy, fuel and brakes are the first things to go

as far as cleaning out his garage, i doubt it, sounds like he bought it done for his kid and she changed her mind

i would buy the orange one so i could beat on it (like a daily driver is meant to do) and not worry about changing an "original" bee and being left out of the "bee owners united" club for hearesey(sp)

[greenpigs]

as far as cleaning out his garage, i doubt it, sounds like he bought it done for his kid and she changed her mind

I am saying the car sounds slapped together. Most people would swap an 8 3/4 in it as the 8 1/4 would not last long if you start laying rubber much. And why put a 440 in if you don't plan on exercising it?