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distributor play

Started by Al, October 09, 2010, 12:29:14 PM

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Al

Hello

When I removed my distributor cap I turned the rotor in a circular motion to check the movement of the weights and springs. What I noticed is that after the advance springs bring the weights back, there remains some play i.e. I can turn the rotor back a little more after the weights are fully seated.

As my dizzy is a new Mopar unit I suppose there is some play in the distributor drive gear and distributor. How much circular play is normal?

(There is NO play between the cam and the distributor/oil pump drive gear.)

Greets
Al
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1

flyinlow

If the engine runs well and the timing advance is working like you want and the timing marks are not dancing around more than a couple of degrees I would not worry about it. :Twocents:

Al

Quote from: flyinlow on October 10, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
If the engine runs well and the timing advance is working like you want and the timing marks are not dancing around more than a couple of degrees I would not worry about it. :Twocents:

The reason why I checked this is because my timing marks were dancing around. Right now I shortened one of the springs in the dizzy. The timing marks are more or less stable now. Replacing the distributor gear drive is an easy fix but for 90 dollars + shipping costs it's no bargain especially if there is the same play in the new piece.  :shruggy:
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1

Nacho-RT74

bushing ? a worn bushing could create play between gears, and I'm not talking just about inside like also worn bushing on top

I'm more less on same deal with a +/- 2 or 3 degrees jump
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

flyinlow

Went out and checked my MP 440 dist. I estimate about 5* of slop from where the advance springs stop returning the reluctor/rotor to where  a light twist on the rotor the opposite direction stops.
At 900 rpm idle , timing dances +/-  about 2 or 3 degrees. At 3000 rpm (all in), pretty steady +/- 1 degree. I shortened the slots on my dist to 12 degrees advance and run 24* base timing so it might be defferent then stock. 16 K on engine, new drive gear, bushing and timing chain at that time. Not sure where the slop is, but it dose not seam to bother the engine.

Al

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 11, 2010, 09:26:23 AM
bushing ? a worn bushing could create play between gears, and I'm not talking just about inside like also worn bushing on top

I'm more less on same deal with a +/- 2 or 3 degrees jump

The distributor is a new Mopar/Mallory unit. There is no play in the distributor when I checked it. It's only there where the distributor/oil pump drive gear and the distributor end meet.
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1

Al

Quote from: flyinlow on October 11, 2010, 09:39:41 AM
Went out and checked my MP 440 dist. I estimate about 5* of slop from where the advance springs stop returning the reluctor/rotor to where  a light twist on the rotor the opposite direction stops.
At 900 rpm idle , timing dances +/-  about 2 or 3 degrees. At 3000 rpm (all in), pretty steady +/- 1 degree. I shortened the slots on my dist to 12 degrees advance and run 24* base timing so it might be defferent then stock. 16 K on engine, new drive gear, bushing and timing chain at that time. Not sure where the slop is, but it dose not seam to bother the engine.

Thanks for checking! That's exactly what I have, so I guess everything's ok.  :2thumbs:

AL
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1

Nacho-RT74

I remember having once a perfect timming without any jump issue.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Al

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 11, 2010, 10:38:02 AM
I remember having once a perfect timming without any jump issue.

;D
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1

Nacho-RT74

but that was long time ago, then I got the jumping timming
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

flyinlow

i suspect the timing chains initial stretch happens very quickly then it settles down for 100,000 miles. At higher speeds the centrifugal force keeps the slack out,combined with the faster advancing/retarding effect of the valve springs tends to smooth it out. Just my hunch.  :shruggy:

firefighter3931

Nothing to worry about Al....don't sweat it.  ;)

Mine jumps around a few degrees at idle with the MP distributor.  :yesnod:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Al

Quote from: firefighter3931 on October 12, 2010, 10:58:37 AM
Nothing to worry about Al....don't sweat it.  ;)

Mine jumps around a few degrees at idle with the MP distributor.  :yesnod:



Ron

:2thumbs:
1968 Dodge Charger, 383, UU1