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Started by 66chargertoy, June 20, 2010, 07:26:41 AM

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66chargertoy

Ok, time to put in my new 727 that I got rebuilt just recently. It is a straight forward rebuild that will be matted to my 440.  Engine is a 1970 block, also recently rebuilt,(not sure of the piston configurations) but have installed a Crower cam 271HDP that Ron suggested to me and also helped me personally with the break in. Thanks again Ron :2thumbs:. Oh, by the way, this is a great all around cam if you are thinking about getting one :yesnod:. I will changing the rear end to a 323 soon. My question is what would be a decent converter for this combo. Car is basically for street use. I will be ordering some other parts from Summit, so they seem to have a good selection of converters. I'm leaning towards Hughes or TCI.What are your thoughts.
Denis
1966 440 Charger

elacruze

Well, since you asked for thoughts not expertise...note signature...

One thing I find very common amongst the musclecar crowd is that the people who have their cars built instead of building it themselves tend to put too much converter in their cars. The reason for that is usually that they go to the local racer guru, and tell him 'I want it like this or that and run 10/11/12/whatever 1/4 miles'. Then, the racer guru calculates the best converter for the engine/trans/rear axle/slicks. Um, wait a minnit, you don't run slicks on the street. Now they end up with a converter that launches right with slicks, but blows away street tires too easy and is looser than comfortable. Some guys like that loose converter feel/sound, but I'm not one of them. I tend to lean to the conservative side on converters; I figure, if you can burn the tires on good clean pavement and not bog the motor, you have enough converter. Of course it won't launch as hard on the track, but how important is 1/2 second at the track if you only go once or twice a year, but spend 200 hours a year driving on the street?
So, my thoughts here are simple; measure your usage and performance/drivability goals carefully, and discuss in depth with those who know how to choose converters to suit your purpose. (I'm not that guy)
Oh yeah, a few years ago when we built my buddy's race car, Hughes gave two free stall changes so if you didn't like it, they'd take it back and change the stall for you at no charge twice. I have no idea if they still do that, or if it was something they did for him because he spent a jillion bux with them.
:Twocents: :popcrn:
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

firefighter3931

Hi Denis  :wave:

The stock conveter will work fine with that cam but if you're looking for a little stall increase an 11in unit with 2200-2400 stall is all you really need. I prefer Hughes over TCI, personally.  :yesnod:

You're more than welcome for the help but you did all the hard work and did a great job....i just supervised the break-in.  ;)


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

66chargertoy

Hey Ron, what do you think about this one from Summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUP-24-25/ . Oh, on another note, I just finished installing the Lokar kick down cable on the charger so it will be ready for the new trany. Has mentioned on previous post, this is NOT a simple bolt in :brickwall:, the word UNIVERSAL is exactly what this item is. Get ready to spend some time figuring it out and adapting it to your vehicle. And if you have headers, keep an eye on your blood pressure :flame:. I would highly recommend that if you do go with this set up, order the throttle cable also in order to avoid trying to match up old and new. Have fun ;D ;D ;D.
Denis
1966 440 Charger

firefighter3931

Quote from: 66chargertoy on June 21, 2010, 08:14:18 AM
Hey Ron, what do you think about this one from Summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUP-24-25/ .


That looks like a nice converter for your combo  :2thumbs:

I've often heard that the Lokar cable kits are a PITA to install and configure but i've never used one personally...



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

BSB67

Quote from: 66chargertoy on June 21, 2010, 08:14:18 AM
Hey Ron, what do you think about this one from Summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUP-24-25/ . Oh, on another note, I just finished installing the Lokar kick down cable on the charger so it will be ready for the new trany. Has mentioned on previous post, this is NOT a simple bolt in :brickwall:, the word UNIVERSAL is exactly what this item is. Get ready to spend some time figuring it out and adapting it to your vehicle. And if you have headers, keep an eye on your blood pressure :flame:. I would highly recommend that if you do go with this set up, order the throttle cable also in order to avoid trying to match up old and new. Have fun ;D ;D ;D.
Denis
I don't know anything about Summit converters.  But I would not skimp.  I would use a factory converter, or go to a reputable converter builder.   :Twocents:

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

Nacho-RT74

just in case:

link takes to a Hughes convertor into the Summit on line shop, not to a Summit convertor
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html