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Fiat now owns Chrysler

Started by Tilar, June 10, 2009, 08:55:01 AM

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Charger_Fan


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

TiMopar

Quote from: Charger_Fan on June 15, 2009, 01:48:34 PM
Quote from: TiMopar on June 15, 2009, 05:34:46 AM
They got good taste!
At what...Yamaha racing apparel? :smilielol:



They sponsor Valentino Rossi, 5 x times and current Moto GP World champion, here you go....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi

Ghoste

If he ain't won Daytona twice I don't give a shit who he is.  :lol: ;)

Brock Samson

 found this link over at www.allpar.com , well written I'd say...  :scratchchin:
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/analyst-forecasts-new-chrysler-and-fiat.html

i'm reviewing fiat/CDJ stuff I'll post what seems plausable,..


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=6872538
current thinking seems to be something like this will be the next new Chrysler
baised on a shortened LX platform the 200 C. to replace the current stratus oops i mean Avenger and whatever that ugly mid sized FWD chrysler is called these days..
The word is plant space is assigned to produce it.


dukeboy320

Massively Over Powerd And Respected

Brock Samson

the sad day for "MOPAR" was when the Corp. Managment sold out to Daimler 10 years ago. or did you miss that part?..  :RantExplode:

PocketThunder

Quote from: Brock Samson on June 24, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
the sad day for "MOPAR" was when the Corp. Managment sold out to Daimler 10 years ago. or did you miss that part?..  :RantExplode:

Wasnt the sad day for Mopar back in the mid 70's?   :shruggy:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

Ghoste

At least they were still independent then.  I agree with Brock, after the sellout to Daimler it's been a slow spiral down.  There were some bright spots in there too but overall Daimler just never knew what to with Ma.

Brock Samson

 Well they sure as hell knew what to do with the $5 Billion they took from Chrysler - they shut down Plymouth, delayed all the upcoming MOPAR vehicles and substituted them with designs biased on five year old Mercedes hardpoints, parts and electrical systems and axed any execs that didn't agree,.. and brought out appox. 15 new Mercedes models.
One other problem i see from this-  no, sorry these management changes - cause this is the third change in ten years...
is, that every time a new management board gets behind the wheel in these freaking Chinese firedrills, they freeze all programs for review and then substitute their own programs in place of the preceding one,.. So DCX lost the design innovation lead that the Co. had and was famous for prior to model Yr. 00, then the three headed dog Cerberus group has delayed things at least another 6 Mos. though they mostly simply axed programs, and now this new Fiat coup will delay things God only knows how long, Those that were expecting the '99 concept to be introduced in '01

Charger and were disappointed in the '05


     :eek2:
like me...


can lay the blame directly at the feet of the top Chrysler management circa 1999.
They didn't have to take the money and run,.. but that's what they did...

Ghoste

You left one management group out, the feds have certainly been sticking their noses in it too and that has had a very real impact on product.
When the Lutz Gang sold out and left town, it was allegedly because of the attempted coup by Kirkorian and Iaccoca.  Does anyone know what that dispute was all about?

Brock Samson

the overview is Kirk wanted to be the largest shareholder and brought on lido an ace in the hole kinda' thing,.. that's a simplistic view BTW:
The way Daimler treated Lido was a slap in the face by the way...  :shruggy:
The entire thing was a sordid and sorry affair more about individual egos then any love for the Corp. it's history or the fate of it's workers,. products or history...  :-\

Ghoste

So there wasn't a specific direction that one faction wanted to take the company versus the other, it was really just a clash of ego?

Brock Samson

well,.. Kirk can certainly afford the lawyers to sue me for defamation, there's plenty on record about him to research should you care,.. to his credit he protested the Daimler takeover oh, excuse me, "merger of equals" but, who knows what direction that would've gone had he prevailed... hey!  I got to use prevailed in a sentence!  :D
maybe I'll git a chance to use loosened?..  :shruggy:

Brock Samson

a neat though unfounded photoshop of the upcomming 200C by suzq044 from allpar


no hidden headlights are in the works...

bull

Quote from: elanmars on June 10, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
I can't wait to see a Fiat R/T!!  :D

Fix
It
Again
Right (this time)
Tony

FiaR/T or Fart for short?

BB1

Hey man check out my Fart.  :D
Delete my profile

dodgecharger-fan

Aren't they hiring Lutz back now?

Mike DC

 
My loyalty to this modern "Mopar" is gone. 



I'll settle for trying to keep buying American stuff from GM & Ford whenever possible.