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which carb? Ok new question Diff. between 750 perf. or 800 thunder?

Started by sparkybr74mr, May 01, 2009, 05:43:55 PM

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sparkybr74mr

I recently bought a 70 charger 4 spd, She has a recently rebuilt 440 magnum to spec's. I am requesting recommendations for a replacement carb. She currently has a carter carb that has been giving me some trouble. I have been told to get a street demon, holley, edlebrock, and even came across a six pack set up. I am looking for one with a really good throttle response and low maintainance. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve   

What is the diff. in a 750 performer and 800 thunder series. What would be the better carb for my car?  And would I need the single or dual plane carb. for my car. Running a stock manifold  Thanks again Steven

Rolling_Thunder

F**K DEMON CARBS


Ease of maintinance and what not?  I'd say an Edelbrock 750 cfm Carb with Electric choke if that's your thing. 
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

sparkybr74mr

Just got done looking at one, 259 and some change. Leaning towards that one. Havn't heard anything bad about edlebrocks

sparkybr74mr

Ok, next question performer series 750, or thunder series 800? any recomendations.

Ghoste

Thunder series, it's like an AVS so there is a little more and easier tunability to the secondaries with it plus the 440 will like the 50 more cfm on the top end.

62 Max

Quote from: sparkybr74mr on May 01, 2009, 05:43:55 PM
I recently bought a 70 charger 4 spd, She has a recently rebuilt 440 magnum to spec's. I am requesting recommendations for a replacement carb. She currently has a carter carb that has been giving me some trouble. I have been told to get a street demon, holley, edlebrock, and even came across a six pack set up. I am looking for one with a really good throttle response and low maintainance. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve

Out of curiosity,what is the carb number on your car? If it is the original 4737 that came on it when new,wrap it up,put it in a box,hide it where only you will know where it is.It's worth about $800 bucks. :o

tan top

put a 800 thunder AVS on mine  ,  manual choke   :yesnod:  no problems  out of the box , just fine tune  idle mixture & idle speed  :yesnod:
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sparkybr74mr

Quote from: 62 Max on May 02, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: sparkybr74mr on May 01, 2009, 05:43:55 PM
I recently bought a 70 charger 4 spd, She has a recently rebuilt 440 magnum to spec's. I am requesting recommendations for a replacement carb. She currently has a carter carb that has been giving me some trouble. I have been told to get a street demon, holley, edlebrock, and even came across a six pack set up. I am looking for one with a really good throttle response and low maintainance. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve

Out of curiosity,what is the carb number on your car? If it is the original 4737 that came on it when new,wrap it up,put it in a box,hide it where only you will know where it is.It's worth about $800 bucks. :o

He replaced it witha carb from the wrecking yard, hence the problems, I will post the numbers later when I have a chance to look at them

426HemiCharger

OE Carter AVS or Edelbrock Thunder series AVS
------------------------Cars I have now----------------------------
1969 Charger R/T
1998 Ford Econoline 150
2002 Hyundai Elantra GLS
-----------------------Cars I wish I had----------------------------
1969 Charger R/T 4-Speed or Hemi Clone
1970 Charger R/T Hemi Clone
1970  Dodge Polara IL State Police Car
---------------------------Future Posibilities------------------------
2010 or later Ford Fusion Hybrid (Replaces 2002 Hyundai)

Purple440

I'm running an 800cfm Thunder Series AVS on my 440 and it's working just fine.  Adjusting the secondary opening is simple...no springs to mess with.  I'm sure I could get more power out of a Holley, so I'm told.



Ghoste

It's all the fine tuning you can do to a Holley that allows it to make a little more power.  They allow you to change more things on the carb and the things the Carter style does allow you to change don't allow the range of changes that the Holley does. But for plug and play in a street car I still like the Carter style carbs.

sparkybr74mr

What would be the better carb for my car a 750 performer or 800 thunder series. I am running a stock manifold. I also see the term single plane or dual plane on certain model carbs. What would be the best application. Thanks again for all the help. Steven

Ghoste

The Performer is like an AFB and the Thunder is like an AVS.  In your case I'd go with the Thunder for the reasons already mentioned.  If you have the stock intake it's a dual plane which is plenty fine for the street.

oldschool

Quote from: Ghoste on May 04, 2009, 08:10:05 AM
It's all the fine tuning you can do to a Holley that allows it to make a little more power.  They allow you to change more things on the carb and the things the Carter style does allow you to change don't allow the range of changes that the Holley does.


:iagree:  holleys are without a doubt the easiest to tune,to get parts for,and ease of use . its what i have on all my cars. would not run anything else...
1968 cuda formula S bb 4-sp                          1968 Charger R/T 500" 4-sp
1970 Charger 580" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Quote from: sparkybr74mr on May 04, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
What would be the better carb for my car a 750 performer or 800 thunder series. I am running a stock manifold. I also see the term single plane or dual plane on certain model carbs. What would be the best application. Thanks again for all the help. Steven

Edelbrock Performer Series= continuations of Carter AFB (Aluminum Four Barrel).
Edelbrock Thunder Series- continuations of Carter AVS (Air Valve Secondary)

Just so you know, some people think the 750 performer is poorly designed, with off idle stumble problems.  The 750 is calibrated from the factory for economy.  I have not heard any criticisms of the 800 performer.  Edelbrock redesigned the 800 with performance in mind.

The 800 thunder is a good carb, but more expensive. 

A 800 (Performer or Thunder) may be a bit big for a completely stock 440 Mag.  I have run a 625 AFB Competition Series on a completely stock 440 Mag with excellent throttle response and reliability. 

Whatever you get, I definitely recommend getting an electric choke version for convenience. 
'68 Charger R/T, numbers matching 440/727
Now with Hensley 496 stroker and Keisler 4-speed auto

Purple440

The AVS does offer more tunability without taking the carb off, but yeah it is big at 800cfm.  My 440 has stock heads (with bigger valves) so we've tightened down the secondaries to make it act like a smaller carb and the throttle response is excellent.  I've loosened it a bit since as I've installed an Eddy RPM intake, and my cam has more duration (230@.050) than stock.  My point is, you can get the AVS 800cfm and tune it down to give you the throttle response you're engine likes.

And yes the electronic choke works great, unlike my Demon carb.  Hit the peddle and hold for a few seconds and you're set.  Turn the key and the choke takes care of the rest.  :2thumbs:

:cheers:

- Doug