quarter panel install

[thatildo68]

 charger quarter panel rust seems to always be just above from the wheelarch down so why cut out all the
panel off from the top down to fit a replacement quarter if its still in good nick.
buying a quarter and grafting in just above the wheelwell certainly seems the right choice now
at least you dont interfere with the main side body line (thanks old timer mike dc!)
man i love this forum   

[Charger-Bodie]

charger quarter panel rust seems to always be just above from the wheelarch down so why cut out all the
panel off from the top down to fit a replacement quarter if its still in good nick.
buying a quarter and grafting in just above the wheelwell certainly seems the right choice now
at least you dont interfere with the main side body line (thanks old timer mike dc!)
man i love this forum   

Id like to see some pics?

[Silver R/T]

Question to you guys (who installed skins). Did you flange sheetmetal to lay new skin on top of it or did you just butt it together like in this picture? Did you weld backer plate to reinforce the weld? I was always taught to have a backed welded in if I do butt weld but in this pic it doesn't look like they used it, maybe I am wrong.

[Charger-Bodie]

Silver,

What I usually do is just massage the original steel in a little instead of crimping it.....Just a very small amount of lap. and still at the same profile as original.

Butt welding it is also a good way to go BUT the difference in the steel will make that harder than if they were the same alloy.

[Mike DC]

     
Some shops butt-weld any new quarter metal into the old ones.  But I think they're mainly doing that because they're not satisfied with the fit/appearance of the edges (and signal light holes) on the repros. 


IMHO if you're not THAT picky, then you'd probably be better off getting the lip on the repros banged into shape and just spot-weld it onto the jamb's surface like they did originally.  Butt-welding produces good results but it really depends on a perfect welding job every time (and every single inch of the weld on every single welded seam).  Not as feasible for most of us who aren't professional welders but just learned enough to satisfactorily rebuild our cars. 

 

[bill440rt]

I flanged mine with an air-flanging tool. BUT, you have to cut small relief cuts every couple of inches in the flange to avoid flattening out or distorting the original 1/4. If you don't, you'll lose the "bow" that the original 1/4's have.
I held it in place with sheetmetal screws, and migged it up one spotweld at a time. Removed the screws, and welded those holes up, too.
On the inside seam where the panels overlapped, instead of using seam sealer I used 3M's bonding adhesive. I figured it would make the seam that much stronger. I smoothed the adhesive out with an acid brush. Nice thing about the adhesive is that is really flows and flattens out as it cures. Once it was spoodged with undercoating and painted, you can barely see the inside seam.

[lexxman]

Hey,guys.I've been reading the thread..there's number on the 1/4's?Are these part numbers or serial numbers?My car has new half 1/4's,they start next to the gas cap and go down.I didn't install them the previous owner did. And he over lap the seam,I still have to finish the install.I have to put the trunk extension , rear crossmember,valence and end caps.Witch sounds like a common thing with these cars.I've only had my car for a few mouths,so I'm just getting started.

[Charger-Bodie]

Hey,guys.I've been reading the thread..there's number on the 1/4's?Are these part numbers or serial numbers?My car has new half 1/4's,they start next to the gas cap and go down.I didn't install them the previous owner did. And he over lap the seam,I still have to finish the install.I have to put the trunk extension , rear crossmember,valence and end caps.Witch sounds like a common thing with these cars.I've only had my car for a few mouths,so I'm just getting started.

The numbers are NOT actually on the 1/4 panel, they are on the trunk gutter(where the trunk seal glues) not to mention it sounds like your Charger just got skins instead of the full panels.

[lexxman]

I found the number and yes they are just skins.I think the previous owner were trying to go as cheap as possible.

[BLUE68RT4ME]

Hey Guys, love all of your discussion.  So I've learned about full quarters and partials, where the numbers are located and much more.  This has all been a great help.  My best friend and I are just in the process of my full resto on my '68 R/T.  I know, if you look closely the stripe is for a '69.  That will be fixed.  I got this car two years ago.  It's an all numbers matching car, minus the carb and intake.  Anyway, we've everything torn off the car now and everything but the main body is off to be soda blasted.  Once that's done we plan to prime it, reattach it, do any repair work it might need, then take it off again and send the body off to be blasted and then see what we have left to do in the back quarters.  Any thoughts on soda blasting and anything else I mentioned, feel free to offer.  My main question is, what is the name of these corner pieces and, if they're manufactured, where's the best place to find them?  Well, everything blow the bumper should probably be replaced from a quick look at it.  I'll know more when we get it back from blasting but I also want to ask, is there anything I need to be concerned with in the back here?  Thanks in advance guys.  I look forward to reading your responses.  As we move forward I hope you don't mind me leaning on you some more! TTFN! 

[NMike]

they are valance corners/caps. the only ones i can find tight now are junk (charger specialties) i think someone is making ones that fit soon. looked at AMD but they don't list it on the net.

[thatildo68]

welcome to the club blue68
good luck working on your charger mate, your in the U.S man almost spoilt for choice
its alot harder in new zealand!

[375instroke]

WTF ??
A big dam hole in there? Thats a real pain, no I have to patch it up.

How do you think we feel when we find a hole like that when mating two fuselage pieces together on a $200,000,000 787 that are made overseas?

[375instroke]

When I look at my trunk lip where the VIN is stamped, that area is a separate piece about one foot long and 2" wide that is spot welded to the quarter.

What are these quarters from Auto Metal Direct?  They look like full quarters.

[Charger-Bodie]

When I look at my trunk lip where the VIN is stamped, that area is a separate piece about one foot long and 2" wide that is spot welded to the quarter.

What are these quarters from Auto Metal Direct?  They look like full quarters.

Those ARE full ,factory style replacement 1/4 panels.

[Finn]

they are valance corners/caps. the only ones i can find tight now are junk (charger specialties) i think someone is making ones that fit soon. looked at AMD but they don't list it on the net.

Agreed, they dont fit worth a damn.
Better off fabricating them yourself imo.

[lexxman]

I recently got my corner's from Charger Specialties.And yes I've read about how I'm going to have to rework them.But are the ones from year one or amd any better?

[Charger-Bodie]

I recently got my corner's from Charger Specialties.And yes I've read about how I'm going to have to rework them.But are the ones from year one or amd any better?

The ones from year none are from Charger Specialities.

The AMD ones still haven't proven themselves that I know of, but I have faith in AMD so I guess well see.

[lexxman]

I haven't gotten to the point were I'm ready to  install the corners,but I know it's going to be a job.But on a good note I just got my 66-71 mopar dealer parts catalog cd today.

[BLUE68RT4ME]

Alright, well it looks like that will be a challenge no matter what.  Thank you everyone for your input!  I think it's going to be a good 8 weeks before we will be looking at that work.  Lexxman, if you get to yours before then please let me know how it goes.  Or if you find something better out of your catalog.  I'd really appreciate your feedback! 

[lexxman]

No problem,I don't know if you saw this already,but if not check it out.
http://www.69hemi.com/index.html
This is a very good site click on the green charger and check out the step by step picture's.