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IRS with air bags on a charger?

Started by SuperCharger, February 22, 2009, 04:12:17 PM

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SuperCharger

So I've always had an idea and it comes from people talking about having their cars "theft-proof" you know people pulling the coil plug on their distributor or a fuel cutoff switch etc etc. you know what I mean? But one major flaw to all that is someone comes by with a flatdeck or a towtruck and they have your car easy as pie. So I developed this idea for my 68 dart and will still be going through with it on that car. My thought was if they can't get it to roll they can't haul it away. I know people don't like "slammed" cars but I've been poking around with designs and ideas for my dart of having the car literally sit with the frame on the ground so that it can't be moved by any means other then filling the air bags up and lifting the car up. This would be further theft proofed with a sealed air tank in the trunk. Also upon leaving the car completely emptying the air tank so it can't be controlled at all. Opinions?

I've been looking at picking up my dream car. But I want it to handle really well so I was thinking about putting a Viper IRS system in. Anyone seen it done?

Daytona R/T SE

I could have your car up and rolling in 45 seconds with a rusty $10 bumper jack and a couple of blocks of wood.

Faster if I skip the bumper jack and use a 2x6 and a concrete block.

Sitting your old Mopar on the ground ain't gonna slow anybody down. Most of these cars that now roam the streets were discovered sunk in the mud in someone's back yard.

We know how to move these cars.

I've bought and moved several that didn't even have WHEELS on them...

Moving an old mopar sitting on the ground ?

NO PROBLEM!

How paranoid ARE you, anyway?   :shruggy:


SuperCharger

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on February 22, 2009, 05:39:12 PM
I could have your car up and rolling in 45 seconds with a rusty $10 bumper jack and a couple of blocks of wood.

Faster if I skip the bumper jack and use a 2x6 and a concrete block.

Sitting your old Mopar on the ground ain't gonna slow anybody down. Most of these cars that now roam the streets were discovered sunk in the mud in someone's back yard.

We know how to move these cars.

I've bought and moved several that didn't even have WHEELS on them...

Moving an old mopar sitting on the ground ?

NO PROBLEM!

How paranoid ARE you, anyway?   :shruggy:


lol not paranoid things of value seem to have a way of disappearing if they arn't strapped down around here.

Mike DC

A common flatbed towtruck demolishes any possible amount of anti-theft efforts.  Even when the thief is a total incompetent idiot, he can still just throw a hook onto your car's bumper and then let the tires/chassis drag the ground on the way up the ramp.  Checkmate.  Game over.  If a thief is really committed to getting your car then it's just not a game that you can win.


It's worth the trouble to do some basic kill-switching kinds of things or an alarm.  Maybe even a hidden GPS in the car.  But after that it's a waste of effort IMHO.  (And most alarms/kills need to be custom done to help you much.  If you can buy it in a catalog, then so can a thief.) 

You can find places to sell you thousands of bucks in alarm work, but it's probably not gonna do much more than piss you off by going off in error all the time.  Even an extremely elaborate system will fail when a theif drills right through the side of your fenderwell to hit the battery and let it drain out overnight.  Like I said, checkmate. 


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As for IFS stuff, it's been done a few times.  When somebody does do it, it's on a car that's getting an entire Viper drivetrain transplant more often than not.

There's probably 5 or even 10 different street-rod companies making IRS kits to retrofit into any old chassis you're willing to cut up.  But "willing to cut up" is key.  Honestly the kits usually look like an overpriced deal for the money they ask IMHO.  It's a lot of stiff & fragile little stuff compared to the big & dumb & reliable front independent suspensions that these cars were built with from the factory.

There are the beginnings of a trend for building IRS kits that are closer to being bolt-on deals for old musclecar unibodies.  But in those cases the IRSs often seem kinda compromised for that aspect of it.  Also expensive as hell. 



I like the idea of IRS in an old Mopar, but I'd build it myself rather than do any of the "kit" options that I've seen up to now. 

I'm also surprised that XV didn't do an IRS for their cars.