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Started by 69bronzeT5, October 07, 2008, 01:57:02 PM

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69bronzeT5

I have a few parts (bumper brackets etc) that I want to get powdercoated sometime when I can afford it. I have an opportunity to sandblast the parts for free but I'm wondering, if I sandblast the parts and then throw a coat of primer on it, how long will the parts stay surface rust free and also, will the primer affect the powdercoating?
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic


THE COLONEL

Here is a site, which is the place where I got some of The Colonel's items powdercoated.  It is well worth it!! :yesnod:


http://www.prismpowdercoat.com/
"THE COLONEL....DIFFERENT RANK...SAME ATTITUDE"

The70RT

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on October 07, 2008, 01:57:02 PM
I have a few parts (bumper brackets etc) that I want to get powdercoated sometime when I can afford it. I have an opportunity to sandblast the parts for free but I'm wondering, if I sandblast the parts and then throw a coat of primer on it, how long will the parts stay surface rust free and also, will the primer affect the powdercoating?

If you put on  primer you will have to take the primer back off if you powdercoat it later. Just blast them and put them in a ziplock. I have been blasting and powder coating for the last couple of weeks. It is pretty easy to do. Harbor freight has a machine that is like 75 bucks. You will need an oven and I picked up a small dental oven on ebay for like 65.00 a while back. I can only get things as large as my control arms in it but I got a lot of pieces done though.
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69bronzeT5

So....do you guys think it'll be fine if I sandblast the parts (for free ;)) and then throw a temporary coat of primer on it?
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

SuperCharger

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on December 14, 2008, 05:02:51 AM
So....do you guys think it'll be fine if I sandblast the parts (for free ;)) and then throw a temporary coat of primer on it?
yes but it will have to come off later i.e. sandblasting all over again. powdercoating should be plenty cheap if your giving them perfectly clean parts that all they have to do is put color to it. especially if all the parts are the same color

NorwayCharger

The smart thing to do is:
Wait with the blasting until you are ready to powder coat :Twocents:
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72SE

We use a product called Picklex ( picklex.com )works great weather we spray liquid or powder. Check out the site. Mike

Dodge Don

Remember....if you don't seal any holes in the parts they will become smaller once powdercoated and will no longer work as intended since the holes (bolt/screw/grommet whatever will be too large for the hole.

72SE

Yes you have to make sure to tell the coater which holes you want plugged.

The70RT

It is no biggie if they powder coat some of the holes. A small file will clean them up unless they have threads. On my A arms I just used a wire wheel to clean the balljoint and bushing holes.
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72SE

I guess it's just easier for the customer to tell the coater if there are certain areas that he/she doesn't want coated before hand. We have no problem masking those areas if a customer asks but have a hard time when a customer comes back and can't put their parts together and blames us.

4cruzin

Remember that when powder coating parts, they they cook in an oven at around 300*.  No parts with rubber on them or liquid in them. 
Tomorrow is promised to NOBODY . . . .

The70RT

Quote from: 4cruzin on December 15, 2008, 12:13:17 AM
Remember that when powder coating parts, they they cook in an oven at around 300*.  No parts with rubber on them or liquid in them. 

Plus if you preheat the part taping doesn't work?....at last that's my experience.
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72SE

We use curing temperatures to 425 and use high temp masking tapes. Parts need to be stripped of rubber/plastic and definitely no liquid. Parts need to be very clean. At that temp all of the hidden grease likes to find it's way on to the nice new paint job.

The70RT

Quote from: 72SE on December 15, 2008, 11:58:27 AM
We use curing temperatures to 425 and use high temp masking tapes. Parts need to be stripped of rubber/plastic and definitely no liquid. Parts need to be very clean. At that temp all of the hidden grease likes to find it's way on to the nice new paint job.

Cool. Thanks for the info. All my parts are done now. I will know next time.  :2thumbs:
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69*F5*SE

If you gotta sandblast now (for free) then I too recommend Picklex 20 to keep the parts from rusting before powder coating.  It's a good product that will buy you loads of time while the wait is on.  It works fine with powder coating.  As long as the parts are kept dry the Picklex will keep the parts from rusting for a very long time.

69bronzeT5

Well my reason for sandblasting now is I'm in Auto shop at school until the end of January and I have access to a sandblaster.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

72SE

Just make sure you degrease the parts REAL well before you sandblast them so you don't just smear dirt/grease around when blasting. Make sure they are clean after blasting and spray the picklex on the parts. As long as you follow the directions they give you, you can store the parts for a long time and your coater can coat right over the picklex. Mike