2008 BULLETT Mustang

[Ghoste]

Yea....it would be sweet to see Dodge make a black Charger and then do a Bullitt battle

Didn't Motor Trend or Car and Driver already do that?

[Chatt69chgr]

You've got to hand it to the Ford marketing folks.  They have intelligently delved into their history to make a car that I think will appeal to many folks.  I was always facinated with the sound of the Bullet Mustang in the movie.  I had a 390 GT engine in my 66 Fairlane and I was always disappointed that it didn't sound like my buddys 390 equipped Mustang.

I really hope that the marketing people at Chrylser do some of this same type of thing as Ford.  They can start off by making the Challenger affordable to the masses.  What they do with this car over the next couple of years will probably be an indicator of what we can expect from the company overall in the long run.  But I really think that we are seeing the end of the era of the traditional "muscle" car.  Thats one reason I really want a Challenger.  This will probably be the last or close to the last time you will ever be able to buy something like this.  From then on, it will be jelly mould cars for the masses and high powered, high priced specialty cars like Porsche, etc. for the rich people.  In 10-15 years, I think Mustangs and Challengers will be highly desirable by many younger folks since they won't be able to go to the dealer and buy one anymore.   

[GeneralLeeTESH]

The FORD Motor Co. is DESPERATE to sell ANYTHING right now !  About 2 years ago-they got a law firm in Vegas to send letters to any/all "Mustang" vendors, shops, businesses threatening a lawsuit of OVER 100 grand for "Trademark Violation" using the name "Mustang" in their business name. Some VICTIMS incuded:  MUSTANGS Plus, Mustangs Unlimited, Mustang Monthly magazine, etc.
Before Alan Mulally went to FORD, I emailed him and told him that that was the BIGGEST Mistake Ford EVER MADE...with the phrase..."can you HEMI now?"
Since then...the suits have stopped and the Mustangs sales have hurt Ford badly. The Shelby Mustang's price @ local dealerships has DROPPED over 20 grand in price since then.
I think FORD is going to FAIL as a company. Besides-with al the 787 nightmare and P8A program problems Boeing is having-I would not be surprised to see Boeing call Alan back soon. If that happens...it won't surprise me at all !!!
LOOK HERE at the petition's wording:
http://www.petitiononline.com/65must65/petition.html

and consumer anger:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?65must65&1

[Ghoste]

Chrysler did the same thing years ago.  They even helped put one of the Mopar mags out of business when he refused to knuckle under. 

[Brock Samson]

You've got to hand it to the Ford marketing folks.  They have intelligently delved into their history to make a car that I think will appeal to many folks.  I was always facinated with the sound of the Bullet Mustang in the movie.  I had a 390 GT engine in my 66 Fairlane and I was always disappointed that it didn't sound like my buddys 390 equipped Mustang.

I really hope that the marketing people at Chrylser do some of this same type of thing as Ford.  They can start off by making the Challenger affordable to the masses.  What they do with this car over the next couple of years will probably be an indicator of what we can expect from the company overall in the long run.  But I really think that we are seeing the end of the era of the traditional "muscle" car.  Thats one reason I really want a Challenger.  This will probably be the last or close to the last time you will ever be able to buy something like this.  From then on, it will be jelly mould cars for the masses and high powered, high priced specialty cars like Porsche, etc. for the rich people.   In 10-15 years, I think Mustangs and Challengers will be highly desirable by many younger folks since they won't be able to go to the dealer and buy one anymore.   

What do you think the neo-Chally will be?.. So how much do you think it will cost, anyhow?..

[TUFCAT]

I also heard that same thing....going after trademark violations is a good thing in my opinion.  To many people are making money without getting proper licensing. Like it or not, its the new wave of the future.  Unfortunately, many crappy "Knock-off products" are becoming way to commonplace in the market

[GeneralLeeTESH]

MOPAR Charlie Gluck-a Chrysler design engineer who brought the HEMI back at Chrysler- told me on the phone that the base price of the new Chally will be $ 25k.
Here is Charlie's email:  hemidart@hotmail.com
his phone number:
  727-842-9803

[GeneralLeeTESH]

Your statement about Trademark Violation in regard to THE Law is correct...but this is about the FREEDOM of SPEECH right to use the common word MUSTANG in any business name !
Maybe Ford should sue Boeing and the USAF  for owning the name P51 MUSTANG. Maybe Mustang, Oklahoma should also rename their town !  Maybe the MUSTANG Club of America should be sued also !
The ridiculousness and DESPARATION Ford has shown by this bufoonic move is a SHAME on this country !
I hope they do fold...and everybody goes DODGE and has a HEMI !!!
OOPS...I used a trademarked name in my sentence. Solly !!!

[Old Moparz]

What do you think the neo-Chally will be?.. So how much do you think it will cost, anyhow?..

My guess is the sticker price on one with the SRT package will be $48,000 or so for the base model. You won't be able to get a base model though, only fully loaded cars with about $12,000 worth of options in it will be on the lots. Then, the greedy dealers will tack on their "Market Value Surcharge" as they like to call it, to make sure that the folks who just HAVE TO HAVE ONE will pay top dollar for it. That will be a minimum of $15,000 more. Do they still have gas guzzler luxury tax fees on cars? If so, that will also be added.

$48,000
$12,000
$15,000
$75,000 total for a $25,000 car. 

[Brock Samson]

 Do you really belive she's gona sell for $25,000?.. 

That's a good one.... 

[GeneralLeeTESH]

These dealers all have UNIMPRESSIVE wanna be cars ! I'd bet $$$$$$ the OLD School STOCK muscle cars from the 50's and 60's and  70's can STILL blow these new cars off the road in a real man's 1/4 mile race !!!
ALL new cars now adays have a computer on board them (since 2004) , which is a DATA LOGGER...designed by the insurance industry to prevent them from liability for our tire-roasting actions...then used to CONVICT the new car owner in court for such violations ! I would not spend ANY money on ANY car, which has this Data Logger in it...so later on I get thrown in jail !!!

[TUFCAT]

ALL new cars now adays have a computer on board them (since 2004) , which is a DATA LOGGER...designed by the insurance industry to prevent them from liability for our tire-roasting actions...then used to CONVICT the new car owner in court for such violations ! I would not spend ANY money on ANY car, which has this Data Logger in it...so later on I get thrown in jail !!!

Tesh, I think we're off the subject....but - - It's a good tool when there is a fatal or serious injury accident. Maybe its a bit like "big brother is watching" but it could be used towards a conviction....something to think about if one your kids or wife were involved. Just a thought (God forbid) that this would ever happen.   

The design intent was probably not to bust people for civil infractions.

[Brock Samson]

These dealers all have UNIMPRESSIVE wanna be cars ! I'd bet $$$$$$ the OLD School STOCK muscle cars from the 50's and 60's and  70's can STILL blow these new cars off the road in a real man's 1/4 mile race !!!
ALL new cars now adays have a computer on board them (since 2004) , which is a DATA LOGGER...designed by the insurance industry to prevent them from liability for our tire-roasting actions...then used to CONVICT the new car owner in court for such violations ! I would not spend ANY money on ANY car, which has this Data Logger in it...so later on I get thrown in jail !!!

  Hey man, take in your christmas lights... 


http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=123209  RE: limited production the first two years...

latest mule pics..  http://moose135.smugmug.com/gallery/3802887#219482787

[Brock Samson]

MOPAR Charlie Gluck-a Chrysler design engineer who brought the HEMI back at Chrysler- told me on the phone that the base price of the new Chally will be $ 25k.
Here is Charlie's email:  hemidart@hotmail.com
his phone number:
  727-842-9803

Hey, ya' wanna put some money on that?.

[Ghoste]

Wow, leave the table for a couple of hours and...
I think, we may be in the twilight of classic musclecar and dawn of peak oil and the leading cause of global warming OR, we may be in the dawn of a new musclecar era.  Maybe alternative and affordable energy is right around the corner and global warming is a natural phenomena and we will somehow adjust.  Mostly today, I think the glass is half full.
Data logger or not, ugly styling or not, I have personally witnessed a few stock SRT8 Chargers lay down 1/4 mile passes that left our old musclecars gasping in shock.  Truth is, our old cars weren't quite as quick in stock form as leftover magazine road tests and out jaded memories sometimes insist.
I also think the demise of Ford would be a HUGE tragedy, economically and automotively. (Like Hemi Daytonas?  What if Ford went under in 1962 instead of today?)
As for the Bullitt Mustang, I say Hell Yeah!  And lets have a Bullitt Charger and Vanishing Point Challenger too.  There is room for it all.

[TUFCAT]

And lets have a Bullitt Charger and Vanishing Point Challenger too.  There is room for it all.

HELL YEAH!!!   

[Brock Samson]

 So nearly a year has passed, So what have we learned?..
The base Chally is listed at $22K the Bullett Mustang is a bonafied hit along with all the other editions (the hertz shelby was left out of the previous posts BTW) and the Camaro is due out shortly with a 250 HP six and possibly a turbo 4Cyl too...
too bad the Chally weighs 4,100 Lbs. and isnt a hardtop. but i like it soooo much more then a LX 4 dr. anything.
I would concider a Bullet Mustang I don't like the mustangs with all the gee gaws on them, they look stupid and silly to me...
and BTW...
  Bullet Mustang  Vs. SRT Chally...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/coupes/2008_dodge_challenger_srt8_vs_2008_ford_mustang_bullitt_comparison_test

  V-6 Camaro first drive...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/corvette_camaro_corner/2010_chevrolet_camaro_v_6_first_drive_review

  Right Now Today - If money was no object I would have the 600 HP Caddy CTS-V Coupe or Wagon as my first choice of a new car.. with the optinal brake package hell for that car I'd even take the 4 door.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/furious_four_doors/2009_cadillac_cts_v_road_test

CTS Coupe
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/2010_cadillac_cts_v_coupe_spied

the wagon CTS...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/2010_cadillac_cts_sport_wagon_car_news