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GM in talks to buy Chrysler division - I'm going to puke...

Started by 89MOPAR, February 16, 2007, 12:34:31 PM

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mauibarber

You seriously dont see a difference between a Chinese (Communits) car and a American (Democracy) Car?  I would never drive a Chinese  Commy Dodge...ever.  :icon_smile_angry:

69Chrgr

Quote from: mauibarber on February 18, 2007, 06:54:29 PM
You seriously dont see a difference between a Chinese (Communits) car and a American (Democracy) Car?  I would never drive a Chinese  Commy Dodge...ever.  :icon_smile_angry:
True, Commy's do suck. So, no, I would not buy one. However, some people here give GM WAAYYY to much credit regarding quality issues. I would also like to add that Japanese and Koreans build SUPERIOR quality products compared to that of GM. That's just a fact. :yesnod:

twilt

After doing a little additional reading on the subject, I am left to believe that Hyundai is a more likely candidate to buy Chrysler. It seemingly would be more of a logical move as there would be less product overlap. Hyundais strong point (cheap fuel efficient small vehicles) is Chryslers weak point.  So...... forget about that 09 Hemi Camaro and get ready for the New 2010  Hemi Tiburon  :lol:   Either way, it means nothing to me. Whether Germans or Koreans own the company is a moot point to me. Any emotional allegiance that i had for the company ended 9 years ago with the so called Merger. To me they are just another Foreign car company that manufactures vehicles in the U.S. much like Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Toyota.   

RD

Quote from: twilt on February 18, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
After doing a little additional reading on the subject, I am left to believe that Hyundai is a more likely candidate to buy Chrysler. It seemingly would be more of a logical move as there would be less product overlap. Hyundais strong point (cheap fuel efficient small vehicles) is Chryslers weak point.  So...... forget about that 09 Hemi Camaro and get ready for the New 2010  Hemi Tiburon  :lol:   Either way, it means nothing to me. Whether Germans or Koreans own the company is a moot point to me. Any emotional allegiance that i had for the company ended 9 years ago with the so called Merger. To me they are just another Foreign car company that manufactures vehicles in the U.S. much like Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Toyota.   

i have to agree with tom.  oh well... life goes on
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bull

Quote from: RD on February 18, 2007, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: twilt on February 18, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
After doing a little additional reading on the subject, I am left to believe that Hyundai is a more likely candidate to buy Chrysler. It seemingly would be more of a logical move as there would be less product overlap. Hyundais strong point (cheap fuel efficient small vehicles) is Chryslers weak point.  So...... forget about that 09 Hemi Camaro and get ready for the New 2010  Hemi Tiburon  :lol:   Either way, it means nothing to me. Whether Germans or Koreans own the company is a moot point to me. Any emotional allegiance that i had for the company ended 9 years ago with the so called Merger. To me they are just another Foreign car company that manufactures vehicles in the U.S. much like Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Toyota.   

i have to agree with tom.  oh well... life goes on

Me too. However, it would mean something more than nothing to me if Chrysler went to China. I would honestly consider Chrysler completely finished/dead/useless if it were bought by the Chinese. If that happened the name Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep would mean absolutely nothing... less than nothing. It has only a faint meaning now to what it once was but if it went to China it would be completely over IMO. Unless, by some miraculous stretch of the laws of physics, hystory and natural science the Chinese that bought it actually made some good-looking, fast, quality, inexpensive cars and the DCX Germans were shown to be the tools they really are.

How hard is it to not make ugly cars? Is it really that difficult?


twilt

 :iagree:    I don`t think that you are alone. I don`t believe for a minute that the American public is ready for company such as Chrysler to be owned and operated by a corporation from Communist China. I believe that there would be a serious public backlash/boycotts if that happened.

RD

Quote from: twilt on February 18, 2007, 10:30:12 PM
:iagree:    I don`t think that you are alone. I don`t believe for a minute that the American public is ready for company such as Chrysler to be owned and operated by a corporation from Communist China. I believe that there would be a serious public backlash/boycotts if that happened.

hopefully the gov't would step in and state that it may not be in the countries national interest to have such a transaction... better have wal-mart buy out china then china buy out the U.S.
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Ghoste

If the American public are worried about the Chinese buying a good old American car company, they need to think about who supplied them with the cash assets to do that in the first place.  How many WalMarts are there in North America today?  How many of those fine falling price products do they offer with a Mad in USA sticker on them?
It's too late for a public backlash now.  Even if we stopped sending any more of our manufacturing base over there, the ball is already in play.

Charger_Fan

Quote from: RD on February 18, 2007, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: twilt on February 18, 2007, 10:30:12 PM
:iagree:    I don`t think that you are alone. I don`t believe for a minute that the American public is ready for company such as Chrysler to be owned and operated by a corporation from Communist China. I believe that there would be a serious public backlash/boycotts if that happened.

hopefully the gov't would step in and state that it may not be in the countries national interest to have such a transaction... better have wal-mart buy out china then china buy out the U.S.
I would hope so. Having China owning Chrysler would be a bleak, sad day, any way you slice it. :icon_smile_sad:


Quote from: dkn1997 on February 18, 2007, 04:49:20 PM
great, can I get the pork fried rice with that?
That's "flied lice, you plick!" :nana:

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bull

Quote from: Ghoste on February 19, 2007, 02:58:26 AM
If the American public are worried about the Chinese buying a good old American car company, they need to think about who supplied them with the cash assets to do that in the first place.  How many WalMarts are there in North America today?  How many of those fine falling price products do they offer with a Mad in USA sticker on them?
It's too late for a public backlash now.  Even if we stopped sending any more of our manufacturing base over there, the ball is already in play.

I might agree with you in principle because it's true to an extent that the American consumer allowed this to happen, but this goes beyond a $4 toy or a $10 pair of sunglasses. The Chrysler name is an iconic American one that has deep roots here. I think every Dodge fan would like to see the company stay and ideally would like to see it owned by Americans, run by Americans and made by Americans but we're sort of beyond that form of business model these days. Still, even though we're supposedly a "global economy" I think people would like to know that the company is run by people who grew up riding around in Chargers, old Darts and New Yorkers instead of ...


Troy

I think that if Americans had been able to run the company right in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

6pkrunner

The only similarity between the company of the past and today's is the name. And really its Dailmer Chrysler so its not the same. As someone mentioned above any affinity for the company of the past is long been spent. There are very few parts offered by Mopar Performance that aren't available through the aftermarket and in most cases are superior and cheaper. Sad to say but true. So its only a shell of a once proud name that some other company is buying. And given the track record of the last 10 years or so, there's not a lot of goodwill left in it. The dealership network is about the only item of value.

Silver R/T

would still be better rather than if Hyundai bought it. Serves Chrysler right for trying to pass off turd as a Charger.
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twilt

Quote from: Silver R/T on February 19, 2007, 10:43:12 PM
would still be better rather than if Hyundai bought it. Serves Chrysler right for trying to pass off turd as a Charger.

I`d be quite interested to hear your reasoning behind this statement. (if you have any)  If GM did buy Chrysler, do you realize how many people would lose their jobs??

dkn1997

Quote from: 69Chrgr on February 18, 2007, 06:24:15 PM

Yeah, and Disco was also popular. I guess those two(Camaros that is), along with the trailer parks, go hand and hand. Hmmm. Yeah those Camaros were well built cars, I tell you what ::). Lets see, I seem to remember every damn one that had broken in half door handles, broken of interior handles, having to look over the dashboard that peeled up from the sun, trying to engage the starter about 5 times as it needed to be "shimmed" to line up with the flywheel, feeling the headliner tickle your hair as it drooped down, feeling every bump in the road as the puter shock mounts in the rear were broken off, trying to get out and picking up the sagging door. Yeah, you really know your stuff, those Camaros were great and well built cars :laugh:.

it does not take a rocket scientist to see they that they were better than the front wheel drive junk chrysler gave us at the time.  Never said they were well built, but obviousely built well enough that you still see them around.  I have not seen a single turbo 4cyl chrysler from that era in at least 7 or 8 years.  were you drinking when you posted that? because you are debating something I never said. 
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