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69 RT Charger HEMI on EBAY.. ? FAKE ?

Started by R2, August 10, 2006, 10:21:07 AM

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R2

I attached a post of a car for sale on Ebay,,,,I think i have seen this before,,,and thought it had been suspect in the past.... :eyes: Sounds like a scam.........
1200 original miles? RT hemi ??? bid starting at $100  ::)

EBay member since YESTERDAY ???
No feedback ???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-Hemi-1969-Dodge-Charger-R-T-Hemi-Mopar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6199QQihZ016QQitemZ260018765946QQrdZ1

Wakko

Definitely suspect.  1200 original miles but they redid the motor? 
Ian

'69 Basketcase, bluetooth powered

Boynton 236 F&AM

Troy

Read - it's not an original Hemi. The ad states that he still has the numbers matching motor which has 1,500 miles. The ad also states at least twice that the car has 1,200 miles but the odometer picture clearly shows 1,301. ??? Maybe they've been out driving it? The car has clearly been completely rebuilt/modified/painted - apparently twice since he states that there was Bondo in the rear corners. I think there's a lot of information missing but I don't know if it's necessarily a scam. Maybe it is a scam but they swiped the pictures and description form an improperly built clone...

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Charger_Fan


The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

MOPARHOUND!

Possibly a drag racer when new?  The A34 Super Track Pack 4.10/4speed would lead one to think that.

Some of the low mile (former race car) Hemi Cudas put their miles on 1/4 mile at a time.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

R2

I have seen the car on ebay more than once,,,,same photos,,,different sellers,,,,just hate to see someone get burned....

MOPARHOUND!

Yah.  For the kind of $$$$$$ that thing will bring, I would want to check it out first hand to make sure it is legit.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

dodgecharger-fan

SCAM!

The member location is "United Kingdom" but the car is located in the U.S.?

Not completely impossible but that's the earmark of the overseas scam.
Add that to the "restricted to pre-approved buyers", a ridiculously low "But It Now" price, AND the no reserve auction format and you've got someone fishing for eBay usernames to hack...

Shakey

I'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.  At least it did when I clicked it.

R2

QuoteI'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.

What does that mean ? ??? Is that i sign of a scam,,,,ie the geocities thing ?

Shakey

Quote from: R2 on August 10, 2006, 01:05:24 PM
QuoteI'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.

What does that mean ? ??? Is that i sign of a scam,,,,ie the geocities thing ?

I clicked the link thinking it would take me to an ebay page, which it did for about 1 - 2 seconds and then the address in my browser was www.geocities........

This is what is in my browser after clicking the link.

http://www.geocities.com/pawan_cgi/W0QQfclZ3QQfromZR12QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsacatZ6161QQsocmdZListingItemhemi.htm

It looked just like an ebay page but after scrolling down for a bit it wasn't done that well.

I am not saying you were doing anything wrong RD.

It reminded me of the PayPal e-mails that look exactly like the PayPal pages but are not.

R2

QuoteI am not saying you were doing anything wrong RD.

It reminded me of the PayPal e-mails that look exactly like the PayPal pages but are not

I know Shakey  :angel:
I thought the site looked pretty legit,,,but again,,,havent bought any high price items of ebay,,,so it is good you guys know what to look for ,,, spot potential problems.. and help avoid getting burned..  :2thumbs: :cheers:


CDN72SE

Quote from: dodgecharger-fan on August 10, 2006, 12:53:02 PM
SCAM!

The member location is "United Kingdom" but the car is located in the U.S.?

Not completely impossible but that's the earmark of the overseas scam.
Add that to the "restricted to pre-approved buyers", a ridiculously low "But It Now" price, AND the no reserve auction format and you've got someone fishing for eBay usernames to hack...

I saw the same type of ad for a beautiful black '68 Charger R/T with Magnum wheels on it that was sould a couple of years ago on eBay, had palm tree's in the back.  I had that car as my background.  Then I saw the same car pop up on eBay with a crazy low Buy It Now price, seller out of the UK, I emailed him and said the car looked very familiar.  I flagged the car and was watching the auction.  The next day the car was taken off and there was some sort of eBay message about it.  Smells the same.
1972 Charger SE

dodge freak

There no VIN # listed-thats a big turn off for me, might very well have been a 318 car and or many more miles were on it then claim. With the VIN you can look up stuff and even pay to find out the old owners. Would never bid on a car without those # and anything more than a few grand without first looking at it. Pictures are worthless, no way of knowing how old the pictures are or even if they are all the same car.

Troy

Quote from: Shakey on August 10, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
I'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.  At least it did when I clicked it.
Ah, it does now - I have javascript turned off most of the time when I browse. Doesn't everyone? ;)

Yep, it's definitely a scam then. Probably "phishing" for user IDs. Disregard my previous posts.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Shakey

Quote from: Troy on August 10, 2006, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Shakey on August 10, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
I'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.  At least it did when I clicked it.
Ah, it does now - I have javascript turned off most of the time when I browse. Doesn't everyone? ;)

Yep, it's definitely a scam then. Probably "phishing" for user IDs. Disregard my previous posts.

Troy


Obviously not everyone or I wouldn't have posted what you quoted!

So, what is javascript?

Troy

Quote from: Shakey on August 10, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Troy on August 10, 2006, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Shakey on August 10, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
I'd be bit suspicious as the ebay link posted by RD takes you directly to a geocities link.  At least it did when I clicked it.
Ah, it does now - I have javascript turned off most of the time when I browse. Doesn't everyone? ;)

Yep, it's definitely a scam then. Probably "phishing" for user IDs. Disregard my previous posts.

Troy


Obviously not everyone or I wouldn't have posted what you quoted!

So, what is javascript?

Ok, actually I was wrong. The ad has changed - the real ad says the bidding is up to $3,000 and there is no BIN. The seller added a comment and in the comment is an embedded Flash movie which does the redirect to the Geocities page. This bypasses anyone who has javascript or meta refreshes disabled. Pretty sneaky since it's difficult to disable Flash once it's installed in a browser.

Shakey, I quoted you because you were the first to mention that it takes your browser to a Geocities link - very observant. Most people never would pick up on that and they'd "sign in" to what they think is eBay to bid on this once-in-a-lifetime deal. Javascript is a scripting (kinda like programming) language that is commonly used on web sites for all sorts of things including forms validation/submission, scrolling text, and even drag-n-drop content. Most browsers allow Javascript code to run unless it is specifically turned off. Unfortunately, some people have figured out that they can do some evil things by manipulating other people's browsers which makes it rather dangerous to go surfing the web while vulnerable. Porn sites are notorious offenders (hey, you didn't think those naked chicks were really free did you?). Javascript and/or Active Scripting as well as Java is easily turned off in the options menu of your browser. You'll need it for sites like Gmail and Hotmail to work though so it's a good idea to figure out how to set up security "zones" for sites you trust (like this one!).

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

TorRedorv0436

I have been taking it upon myself to moniter E-bay chargers and when i find one thats to good to be true i send it to e bay via this address: moreinfo@ebay.com. If you guys find one please send it in, help protect fellow Charger lovers.