Any Thoughts On This 69 ?

[hemi-hampton]

The VIN plate on Dash looked like it had plain hardware store round headed pop rivets instead of the Rosette headed pop rivets. Or am I seeing things

[70 sublime]

No inspection punch outs on the fender tag ?

[JB400]

More than likely, it belongs to this member:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,112346.msg1381781.html#msg1381781

The mileage and location fit.

[69 500]

well when you ask why a 37 000 mile car need all that. A lot of people strive for excellence and may be that the vehicle wasn't all that well taken care of previously. but here's a question , your wife is 50 years old and has maintained herself conservatively  , does she color her hair , use make-up , wear jewelry that you bought her, or any other items to help her attract your attentions? kind of self explanatory , now isn't ? oh and bye the way just because she doesn't do everything exactly like the Super Models does that make her any less appealing? 

[Challenger340]

well when you ask why a 37 000 mile car need all that. A lot of people strive for excellence and may be that the vehicle wasn't all that well taken care of previously. but here's a question , your wife is 50 years old and has maintained herself conservatively  , does she color her hair , use make-up , wear jewelry that you bought her, or any other items to help her attract your attentions? kind of self explanatory , now isn't ? oh and bye the way just because she doesn't do everything exactly like the Super Models does that make her any less appealing? 

To each their own I guess ?
All I know is that if I had a 50 yr old wife who had maintained herself conservatively all her life ?  lived a clean life ? took care of herself / was in good shape/looked good ?

I dunno why all of a sudden she would go out and get:
*  Liposuction on her six-pack flat stomach
* a giant boob job on otherwise still decent breasts
* ass implants
* and BOTOX injections in her Lips
and...
all "just because" ?

just say'in....
for some maybe it's a fine line open for interpretation as they see fit.... between "cosmetics" for appearance ? and complete dis-assembly and refinishing ?

[Challenger340]

The VIN plate on Dash looked like it had plain hardware store round headed pop rivets instead of the Rosette headed pop rivets. Or am I seeing things

Hard to tell from the Pics Leon.... but I think I can see some "indentation" in the VIN Tag itself around the rivets ? maybe too much pressure when installing or RE-installing after paint ?

It's a beautiful Car 
Just say'in....
and just my opinion here ?
I don't believe the Seller is doing himself any favors in pursuit of full disclosure, that the Car was completely dis-assembled and gone through at 37,000 Original Miles in pursuit of perfection ? or whatever was the motivation ?
just me I guess....
but I think if I was a Buyer looking at this car with an eye to purchasing ? and I had at least some Mopar knowledge ? or if NOT then I was asking opinions from others who did have Mopar knowledge ?

I just think it's fair to say someone may pluck ? and want to know WHY an Original 37,000 Mile "provenance" example such as claimed... has had the degree of work performed on it that it has had ?

[69CoronetRT]

No expert but the tag looks ok to me....

The tag looks correct but either there have been changes to the car or the tag is incorrect. I can't see the broadcast sheet to confirm something.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

No inspection punch outs on the fender tag ?

Only on St. Louis built "G" '69 Chargers.    No punch outs on Hamtramck "B" built Chargers for '69

[John Milner]

More than likely, it belongs to this member:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,112346.msg1381781.html#msg1381781

The mileage and location fit.

After reading the owner's comments in that thread, I am quite surprised that the car is even for sale. 

To me, it looks like a great and highly desirable car.  If the paint on the vin and data tag bother a person, just strip the paint off.  I personally don't see a thing wrong with the data tag but I'll leave that to the experts. Should be easy enough to tell if it is numbers matching and all of the body numbers line up.  The car is 51 years old so it would be perfectly understandable to re-paint the car and fix the interior up.  Hard to beat a black on black with a black vinyl top numbers matching 69 Charger.     

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

No expert but the tag looks ok to me....

The tag looks correct but either there have been changes to the car or the tag is incorrect. I can't see the broadcast sheet to confirm something.

There is a hole in both those sheets where the Radio code would be.....

[Alaskan_TA]

There is a hole in both those sheets where the Radio code would be.....

One of those broadcast sheets (the one at right) is a copy of the one at left.

The window sticker is a fake.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

There is a hole in both those sheets where the Radio code would be.....

One of those broadcast sheets (the one at right) is a copy of the one at left.

The window sticker is a fake.

Yup copy that ....thoughts on tags?

[Kern Dog]

It's a beautiful Car 
Just say'in....
and just my opinion here ?
I don't believe the Seller is doing himself any favors in pursuit of full disclosure, that the Car was completely dis-assembled and gone through at 37,000 Original Miles in pursuit of perfection ? or whatever was the motivation ?
just me I guess....
but I think if I was a Buyer looking at this car with an eye to purchasing ? and I had at least some Mopar knowledge ? or if NOT then I was asking opinions from others who did have Mopar knowledge ?

I just think it's fair to say someone may pluck ? and want to know WHY an Original 37,000 Mile "provenance" example such as claimed... has had the degree of work performed on it that it has had ?

THis was a far better response.
I think that anyone would appreciate that the car looks nice and most might agree that the wording of the ad isn't very specific. Details are inferred rather than clearly stated. It's as if the guy works in marketing and is used to dancing around to make his point.

[ACUDANUT]

Anyone who had a car that had it's dash restored, could have used aftermarket rivets to reattach the VIN number.  How may 50 y/o dash's have not aged. 
That is like seeking a 50 y/o virgin.  Hard to come by. 

[Kern Dog]

If you saw a 50 year old virgin, chances are....it looks like someone that nobody wants to screw.

[Challenger340]

Anyone who had a car that had it's dash restored, could have used aftermarket rivets to reattach the VIN number.  How may 50 y/o dash's have not aged.  
That is like seeking a 50 y/o virgin.  Hard to come by.  

Case in point, and again here.... NO disrespect intended !
Beautiful Charger
But other than very simply to "perceptions" ? derived from the description around claimed vehicle provenance ?
again,
we are all free to our own interpretations ?

Here is a 51 year old 1969 Charger R/T's Dash Board VIN Tag with 37,000 Original Miles


and merely for comparison
here is a 51 year old 1969 Charger R/T's Dash Board VIN Tag with 141,000 Original Miles (51 year old virgin)



Now, I am NOT saying different 51 year old Charger R/T's can't be subjected to vary'ing degree's of circumstances/care/life experiences that they then show their ages/VIN Tags differently ?
All I am saying.....
is that on a 37,000 Original Mile documented 3 Owner provenance example ?   no matter the condition.... from "worn" to still pristine VIN Tag condition?
one may be exercising staid due diligence when presented with a VIN Tag completely "restored/repainted" ?     to then ask the circumstances by which HOW this came to be within 3 Owner provenance and documented 37,000 miles ?

[INTMD8]

^There are certainly some parts of this car that could have been done better, no doubt. (and who knows what the mileage is)

That being said there could certainly be an original/low mile car that has a baked out interior. Just depends on how it was stored and cared for.

Look at poor Miss Belvedere 

[5wndwcpe]

The VIN plate on Dash looked like it had plain hardware store round headed pop rivets instead of the Rosette headed pop rivets. Or am I seeing things

I think they just masked off the VIN tag in place and painted it.  You can see how the paint filled in around the numbers and think that's what you're seeing with the rivets.