Is this the right air cleaner for a 68 440 a/c car?

[Mytur Binsdirti]

November 67 build date if that means anything.

[A383Wing]

from what I have read, unsilenced air cleaners were not supposed to be on AC cars....should have dual snorkle style....but, I could be wrong....link below for air cleaner usage

http://www.nicksgarage.com/aircleaner.htm

[Monsoon Chopper]

I thought Dual Snorkel on Gen 2's were California models only. I could be wrong, but thought that was the case.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

from what I have read, unsilenced air cleaners were not supposed to be on AC cars....should have dual snorkle style....but, I could be wrong....link below for air cleaner usage

http://www.nicksgarage.com/aircleaner.htm

Thanks for the link!  

It looks like my air cleaner was primarily used on 383 A-body cars, but they say that it was "also used on early 1968 B-bodies". The smaller unsilenced air cleaner that we are used to "is on all 1968-69 340, 383 and 440 4-Barrel except early 1968 models"    


Perhaps others here have more to say?

[tan top]

seen a number of supposedly unrestored /restored / original / original one owner ...   68 440 B-bodies   coronets / gtxs & chargers with this air cleaner ,  with & with out A/C  ,

from what it looks like , & whats was documented ! the really early build 67 cars  , had that larger  unsilenced  A body style air cleaner ....   not sure when the cut off point was  & or what assembly plant fitted what & to what SPD & was it just because there was a shortage of the 68/69 unsilenced style or using up / made too many of  the larger A body style  , also  seem to remember seeing  more  Coronets & GTXs with this  style ,  that's in its self don't mean  much , 

[moparnation74]

I have only seen that air cleaner on 383's

[HeavyFuel]

My car was originally an A/C car.   I dislike A/C so it stayed off during the rebuild.

Anywho.....this is the right air cleaner cover, build sheet verified.

[6bblgt]

Anywho.....this is the right air cleaner cover, build sheet verified.

where exactly, on  the build sheet was this air cleaner VERIFIED?

[moparfan53]

Anywho.....this is the right air cleaner cover, build sheet verified.

where exactly, on  the build sheet was this air cleaner VERIFIED?

I was curious about this also. As far as I know, the air cleaner was not on the broadcast sheet.

[moparfan53]

I thought the '68 parts book may help, but it does not. There is no mention of with/without a/c or early/late production.  

Here it is anyway. Air cleaner is called a "cover" in the parts book. First column is A body, then B, then C body.

[Bronzedodge]

My 69 has the original unsilenced air same as above.  From my own research into A/C cars I don't believe there was any difference between A/C and non- A/C air cleaners for 68 and 69.  There does seen to be a correlation between early and later build date 68's and the air cleaners.  This is just from my own amateur research and the few local 68 Chargers that I know of.  Both are A/C and have the factory unsilenced type air cleaner.  YMMV

[6bblgt]

the parts catalog DOES shed some light on the subject (early VS. late)

the page shown above is from the April 1968 version & it is stated that it replaces the December 1967 version (anyone have another version)

14-29-7 AIR CLEANER, COVER: #2946 172 w/o snorkel is used on: (& is a new part # as of this 4/68 version)
A-body LS2 & BH2 w/340 4bbl
A-body L, B w/340 4bbl, 383 4bbl (there is an additional two-snorkel AIR CLEANER, COVER shown for 383 4bbl #2899 133 * same as B-body 440 4bbl)
B-body R2 & Road Runner w/383 4bbl
B-body w/383 4bbl, 440 4bbl (there are additional two-snorkel AIR CLEANER, COVERs shown for 383 4bbl #2863 307 & 440 4bbl #2899 133 B-bodies)
C-body P & D w/440 4bbl (based on the parts catalog, there are 3 other AIR CLEANER, COVERs for this application)

Yes, the AIR CLEANER, COVER section of the PARTS CATALOG make ZERO reference to Air/Conditioning,
it also makes ZERO reference to California's "noise reduction" requirements.

this version of the PARTS CATALOG does show the introduction of the smaller unsilenced air cleaner between 12/67 & 4/68 - at least in print

[ws23rt]

I have a copy of--Chrysler Muscle Car Parts Interchange Manual 1968-1974-- Paul Herd--

In the air cleaner section there is --no mention or reference --as to whether or not a car has AC ----or not.

For 1968 440-ci cars it shows the part number 2946172 for all 440's--(unsilenced)-- except california.

For California 440-ci cars the part number shown is--2899133-- which they refer to as the "california sound-reduction package"--"Dual snorkel design".

Again --no mention or reference about AC in the section about air cleaner interchange.

[6bblgt]

B-body ONLY

1967
14-29-7 COVER, Air Cleaner (January 1968 version)
383 4bbl w/o snorkel w/o C.A.P. #2843 862
383 4bbl w/o snorkel with C.A.P. #2843 863
383 4bbl double snorkel w/o C.A.P. #2658 891
383 4bbl double snorkel with C.A.P. #2658 916
440 4bbl w/o snorkel #2963 968 * (also used  on '67 383 A-bodies)
440 4bbl double snorkel w/o C.A.P. #2843 069
440 4bbl double snorkel with C.A.P. #2843 068

1968
14-29-7 COVER, Air Cleaner (April 1968 version)
383 4bbl/440 4bbl w/o snorkel #2946 172 (new # as of April 1968 version)
383 4bbl double snorkel #2863 307 (addition/change as of April 1968 version)
440 4bbl #2899 133

1969
14-29-7 COVER, Air Cleaner (January 1971 version)
383 4bbl/440 4bbl w/o snorkel #2946 172
383 4bbl/440 4bbl double snorkel #2946 159

[6bblgt]

I'm surprised that at this point in the life of this "musclecar" hobby - this is a question w/o a clear answer.  

according to the Parts Catalog there is only one of the "larger" diameter unsilenced air cleaners for the 1967 model year and it would be nipple-less (or did a part number get dropped by January 1967?)
the  early (now it appears almost the first ~4+ months of the year) 1968 HP A & B-bodies would have the "larger" diameter unsilenced air cleaner with a nipple connected to the oil-fill breather

What combination would put a "larger" diameter unsilenced air cleaner on a '67 440HP b-body?

Here's a "larger" diameter no snorkel air cleaner on an unrestored '68 Coronet R/T

[Paul 500]

Heres the Air cleaner lid on my unrestored 68 R/T with A/C, build date April 68.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Is that wrinkle or satin finish?

[Paul 500]

Wrinkle

[tan top]

Heres the Air cleaner lid on my unrestored 68 R/T with A/C, build date April 68.

good picture Paul500 , thanks for sharing    

 interesting  fairly late build &  that style air cleaner .... is the assembly plant  (G) St Louis ?

[Paul 500]

Hamtramck

[HeavyFuel]

Anywho.....this is the right air cleaner cover, build sheet verified.

where exactly, on  the build sheet was this air cleaner VERIFIED?

I was curious about this also. As far as I know, the air cleaner was not on the broadcast sheet.

You guys are right.   I thought it was noted on my broadcast, but I just checked, and no.   Must have read about it someplace else.