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Numbers matching and value

Started by Ghoste, November 24, 2015, 09:48:50 AM

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Ghoste

When it comes to the truly rare, cars that number less than a 100 produced let's say, what percentage do you think having a replacement engine hurts them?

el dub

I would think it would hurt plenty. Non original after that, but what do I know. I don't think a rare car would have been driven enough to need a new motor though. Unless it was a racer. :Twocents:
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

polywideblock

think a lot of the rarer ones were race cars or bought to be raced  ;) and quit a few would now have replacement motors  :scratchchin:

see it on "what's my car worth " all the time "replacement date coded engine "  as to value   :scratchchin:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Ghoste

But some opinions as to a percentage?

dyslexic teddybear

It will be interesting to hear the answers......I am curious what others think.

At one time "matching" would have been very important to me. Unless it's a "survivor" or somewhat close.....not so much now.

If half the frame/sheet metal has been replaced.....not sure the original engine makes much difference. :shruggy:


birdsandbees

Did a warrantee engine get the VIN stamped on it or was the pad left blank??  :shruggy:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

skip68

They are blank.  I had one with no stamping
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Chad L. Magee

It depends on what the car was and what has been put into it to replace the missing equipment.  My guess would be in the 20-25% range if not original engine and transmission, less deduction if only one is missing, if an equivalent (date coded) replacement is installed to match the factory stuff.  There are exceptions (upgrading), like if someone put a nice 426 hemi in place of where a 440-4bbl originally came in an RT.  Same can be said of 440 six pack stuff.  Some buyers would pay more for that, not less...   
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

69 OUR/TEA

You're talking a small number , 100 or less cars , that is just not the norm . If that car still exists , it's valuable just to be here , numbers matching or not . But for me ,  IMO , cars like our 69 Charger R/T , Coronet R/T , Challenger R/T , etc , doesn't get hurt all that much by being matching or not . A non matching R/T is still more valuable than a R/T clone sitting right beside it .
Now , again , IMO , the cars that get affected more  are , I would say are the " unique cars" , Hemi Charger/Cuda/Challenger , A12 cars , and the AAR/T/A's . Especially the T/A 340 motors as they are made/cast " 340 T/A" and are diff from the reg 340's , and their special heads/rockers as well .
I have followed AAR's for awhile , and have seen non matching compared to matching has had ranging values of $20-30k difference .
My 3x9 R/T SE is not matching numbers ( engine , trans is ) , and really doesn't bother me . If someone surfaced with my orig block , I wouldn't be held over the fire for it , might pay couple thousand for it , but that's it .
Of the cars I've had/restored , at the shows/cruises , never had anyone ask me if they were matching numbers .

:Twocents:

triple_green

I agree with Chad,

On a super rare, low numbers produced.

68 Charger 383 HP grandma car (the orignal 3X)