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eBay situation 69 charger sale

Started by photon, November 24, 2014, 08:13:31 PM

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photon

I just sold a 69 charger project yesterday (11-23-14) on eBay.  I contacted the buyer 15 minutes after the auction.  I gave him my phone number and emailed his eBay and personal email.  I have yet to hear anything.  I don't expect payment in a flash.  All I expect is a little communication.  The persons only bid was in the last minute of the auction.  I want to know if the guy does not get the deposit to me after 48 hours can I call the sale void and give the next bidder a second chance offer.  Has anyone delt with this before.  I hope the buyer comes through. 

1965gp

Not sure if this is the case but my dad and I both recently ran into e-bay e-mails getting filtered into the junk folder. He had three items he forgot he bid on and won.

Still, if the bid was in the last minute they were either using some sort of program for a last minute buy or watching it closely. Either way- good luck with it.

moparnation74

I understand your frustrations with selling items on eBay.  I have been buying and selling items on eBay for over a decade.  I have dealt with a few fraudulent buyers.  However, your situation may not be the case, hopefully.

Here are my suggestions. I prefer option 2

1.  I know it sucks but give the buyer some time.  Basically, 48hrs from close of the auction(eBay's policy).  At that time you can open an unpaid case and the buyer has 4 days to send the payment or he can ask for an extension.

2.  After 48hrs and multiple contacts with no response from the buyer, I would just do a second chance offer to the next highest bidder.  Just to let you know a lot of times the next highest bidder may not be interested.  So if the next bidder is not interested then you can move to the next in line if you want to.

###Always communicate through eBay, eBay puts a ton of weight through internal communications####

Another suggestion, for car sales I only do wire transfers.  Open a seperate account with your bank WITHOUT over draft protection.  Once the funds hit that account, have you bank transfer the funds immediately.  Deal is done and you are protected from fraud at that point.


polywideblock

what was buyers feedback like   :scratchchin:   new member ? could it have been a prank bid

you see "relisted due to non payment" all the time  on cars that reappear after being sold,  so I'm guessing it isn't that hard to relist


             your buyer could be a shift worker and won't get your communication etc  till the same time tomorrow if you get what I'm saying  


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myk

If "I" ran ebay there would be no grace period to make payments.  I mean, if a buyer is 100% serious and ready to buy whatever, with cash in hand or waiting in the bank then there's no reason why payment should take more than a few hours.  To hell with multiple emails and communications for hours, days, weeks, to secure something that should be there the second the bid/buy-it-now button is pressed.  If someone bought an item at work, a funeral, the battlefield, during sex, whatever?  Well, they had the time to complete the auction so they could take a couple more minutes and pay the seller too, as it IS their obligation to do so...

ws23rt

Quote from: myk on November 24, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
If "I" ran ebay there would be no grace period to make payments.  I mean, if a buyer is 100% serious and ready to buy whatever, with cash in hand or waiting in the bank then there's no reason why payment should take more than a few hours.  To hell with multiple emails and communications for hours, days, weeks, to secure something that should be there the second the bid/buy-it-now button is pressed.  If someone bought an item at work, a funeral, the battlefield, during sex, whatever?  Well, they had the time to complete the auction so they could take a couple more minutes and pay the seller too, as it IS their obligation to do so...


:2thumbs:I agree  If someone is interested and bidding to the last min./sec. they should be ready to pay at that point. If one can't be on line at the time of auction end than a prearranged financial commitment through ebay to the seller could be made to insure that they are on the hook.

moparnation74

Quote from: myk on November 24, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
If "I" ran ebay there would be no grace period to make payments.  I mean, if a buyer is 100% serious and ready to buy whatever, with cash in hand or waiting in the bank then there's no reason why payment should take more than a few hours.  To hell with multiple emails and communications for hours, days, weeks, to secure something that should be there the second the bid/buy-it-now button is pressed.  If someone bought an item at work, a funeral, the battlefield, during sex, whatever?  Well, they had the time to complete the auction so they could take a couple more minutes and pay the seller too, as it IS their obligation to do so...
MYK, I agree completely.

I have dealt with non payers, people taking forever to pay and asking for extensions, people being the winning bidder and then ask for discounted shipping, item shipped and stolen from the buyer and then relisted by the buyer who claimed it was stolen from him.  The list can go on and on.

myk

See?  That's exactly what I'm talking about-that's a load of b.s.

I tried selling on ebay once and I swear I'd rather just throw my stuff into the garbage than deal with the nonsense that comes from idiotic, excuse-laden non-buyers...

photon

Thanks for all the advice.  The ebayer had a feedback score in the 20's.  I will follow the 48 hour rule and then make contact again.  I just feel if you bid that kind of money you would want to get on the ball, finish the deal, and get the car in your possession.  At least make some contact with a seller or buyer.

bigdsul

Depending on the amount the car sold for getting funds lined up could take a day or more. A wire transfer from bank to bank is the best way to go but the time it takes could be longer then what your anticipating. I bought a .50cal rifle with a few grand of goodies on the side and I wanted to wire the money from my bank to the sellers bank which required the 2 banks getting a hold of each other. The sale took 3 days to complete after I had contacted the seller for the listing and agreeing to a price.

myk

Quote from: bigdsul on November 25, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
Depending on the amount the car sold for getting funds lined up could take a day or more. A wire transfer from bank to bank is the best way to go but the time it takes could be longer then what your anticipating. I bought a .50cal rifle with a few grand of goodies on the side and I wanted to wire the money from my bank to the sellers bank which required the 2 banks getting a hold of each other. The sale took 3 days to complete after I had contacted the seller for the listing and agreeing to a price.

Why didn't you just use paypal to transfer the money immediately?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are services including Paypal that will make money transfers and payments in a matter of mouse clicks.  Maybe it's different for big ticket items?  The most I've ever paid online for an ebay item was $1200. 

Whenever I buy something off of ebay or whatever, I pay for the item before ebay or the online vendor can even send me an invoice or a receipt.  When I buy stuff I don't screw around.  If I'm not ready to buy something then I don't waste my time or anyone else's.  Just my  :Twocents:

fy469rtse

I agree with Myk I never stuff the seller around , I bid on things I intend to buy, PayPal as quickly as I can ,
Can't even tell you what my rating is ? I hope it's good ,

moparnation74

Quote from: myk on November 25, 2014, 04:40:23 AM
Quote from: bigdsul on November 25, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
Depending on the amount the car sold for getting funds lined up could take a day or more. A wire transfer from bank to bank is the best way to go but the time it takes could be longer then what your anticipating. I bought a .50cal rifle with a few grand of goodies on the side and I wanted to wire the money from my bank to the sellers bank which required the 2 banks getting a hold of each other. The sale took 3 days to complete after I had contacted the seller for the listing and agreeing to a price.

Why didn't you just use paypal to transfer the money immediately?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are services including Paypal that will make money transfers and payments in a matter of mouse clicks.  Maybe it's different for big ticket items?  The most I've ever paid online for an ebay item was $1200. 

Whenever I buy something off of ebay or whatever, I pay for the item before ebay or the online vendor can even send me an invoice or a receipt.  When I buy stuff I don't screw around.  If I'm not ready to buy something then I don't waste my time or anyone else's.  Just my  :Twocents:
If you want to pay Paypal's fees sure that is an option.  You need to look at the percentage first before you say, yes.  Wire transfer fees on large sum's are the best option and they are worth a day or two wait. The way around that is to get the buyer to agree to gift it through paypal(eliminates fees) but there are daily limits.  Furthermore, buyers may think it is sketchy to do that and back out.

I have dealt with many buyers that are honest, pay immediately, and repeatedly purchase from me with no problems.  Just imagine what Walmart goes through on a daily basis dealing with people.

Selling today in any avenue is a nightmare sometimes.  People believe TV and think the buyer is broke and they can get it for what they want.

bigdsul

Quote from: myk on November 25, 2014, 04:40:23 AM
Quote from: bigdsul on November 25, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
Depending on the amount the car sold for getting funds lined up could take a day or more. A wire transfer from bank to bank is the best way to go but the time it takes could be longer then what your anticipating. I bought a .50cal rifle with a few grand of goodies on the side and I wanted to wire the money from my bank to the sellers bank which required the 2 banks getting a hold of each other. The sale took 3 days to complete after I had contacted the seller for the listing and agreeing to a price.

Why didn't you just use paypal to transfer the money immediately?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are services including Paypal that will make money transfers and payments in a matter of mouse clicks.  Maybe it's different for big ticket items?  The most I've ever paid online for an ebay item was $1200. 

Whenever I buy something off of ebay or whatever, I pay for the item before ebay or the online vendor can even send me an invoice or a receipt.  When I buy stuff I don't screw around.  If I'm not ready to buy something then I don't waste my time or anyone else's.  Just my  :Twocents:

F PayPal! I will never do business with them. they magically misplaced funds for one transaction and over charged my account for another transaction and it took an act of congress to rectify the issues. They nickel and dime you on everything and they are owned by eBay. Plus they are very anti gun and second amendment. PayPal was a lot better when they were their own entity, but ever since they were bought by eBay their service quality has gone to piss and the fees keep going up. I would rather go through my bank directly through wire transfer or cashiers check.

70 sublime

Lots of big ticket things you will see them listed wanting a deposit of $500 paypal right after the sale then the balance on pick up
Fees on $500 would be liveable and make it worthwhile if the buyer backs out and you have to go through the trouble to relist
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

bigdsul

OP any word from the buyer yet?

Was there any sort of non refundable deposit that was due at end of auction or within 1-2 days?

Most sellers have a non refundable deposit that is due within 1-2 days of auction close and the rest of the funds usually within 7 business days. Unless there was something worked out ahead of time.

Drache

Maybe he was in a car accident or something happened to a kid, a wife, mother, whatever. Who knows what the story is.

Contact Ebay and start going through non-paying winning bidder and do that. If anything you'll get to list the car again for free.
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workworkwork

From what I have seen, there are a bidders who are real and bidders who just like driving the price of something up on ebay. Anyone with 0 feedback is suspect. Anyone who bids on a lot of different vehicles with out feedback is likely a fraud. There have been bidders on items I was bidding on that I was pretty sure would not pay if they won.

polywideblock

yeah had the same experience , if you let them win you see car relisted  :scratchchin:   think its friends of the seller running up the price  :flame:


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