And in the distance, another ebay seller sniffs glue......

[Crazy Larry]

I suppose the other thing is that I do some part time work for a large collector car auction house, so I get tired of hearing about it sometimes (I know, don't read the thread).  It's like bringing your work home I guess.

Curiosity kills but do you have any inside stories about the car auction house???

What is the most expensive auction you've ever seen?
Have you ever discovered an owner trying to pass off a "cloned" vehicle as an original???

...and Troy,

    After reading your last breakdown of some of the resto expenses, I had to drop to me knees and thank God I found my Charger in the condition it was in. As a hobby, I'll stick to watching movies and playing pool.

[pete]

  I still have a hard time believing there is NO BONDO and it is STRAIGHT.  I've seen some of the best metal work ever at prototype shops and they still required a skim coat and/or some sort of spray on filler.  Maybe this is what he means??  Maybe I am just jealous because my car has a skim coat of Bondo, but my car is straight, period....and black!

[Ghoste]

Larry, I ain't touching that, no way, no how!

[Crazy Larry]

Larry, I ain't touching that, no way, no how!

well, it was worth a try 

I am always curious about the behind the scenes stuff that goes on - I wish they would do that for Barret Jackson events - you know there has to be some arguing going on back stage when they guy finds out his 1971 Hemi 'Cuda he just bought for $150,000 is a clone.

[bull]

If the body is truly straight and there's really no rust I would say that price is not out of line. After learning what it takes to get these things whipped into shape I would pay that much for that car if it's as he says it is. Having said that I don't think it's in as good of shape as he thinks it is based on what I'm seeing. His picture collection is less than revealing so it's hard to tell.

It doesn't appear to be an R/T or special edition fo some kind - so with that price you should have an engine. And for the most part it doesn't even look like all the parts are there - I don't see the front valence or bumper. And he doesn't even show you the back end so I assume that is just as incomplete. He says all the parts are there to be given to you but what condition were they in, not to mention the interior.

"Vehicle Description  

This 1969 Charger Was a running car when it was taken down for restoration.  The body was stripped by the body shop and any rust repairs needed were completed, done right with NO BONDO.  The car is now DEAD STRAIGHT with NO RUST.  The car is currently in two part primer.

Offered with the original number matching 383 (HP) and 727.  8 3/4 Suregrip rear end, new tires, will include 2 hoods and trunk lids and all original parts that were on the running car, bumpers, all glass, tick tock tach, 150mph speedo etc. etc... "


The condition of the parts is pretty much irrelivant. Nine times out of ten the spare parts are going to need at least some work or replaced. Unless a car this old has sat in a climate controlled garage for most of it's life many of the factory parts are going to need work.

And think about this. If you look you'll notice that there aren't very many $17k Chargers out there. Most are either $8k or $25k+ because you're seling either a project or a finished project. Few people want anything in-between because you're basically looking at doing a complete restoration on anything that hasn't been restored or was restored several years ago. You'd be very hard-pressed to find a 2nd Charger worth buying for $17k unless you found an emergency sale in mid resto or happened upon some poor sap with a finished Charger who's in the middle of a divorce and wants to sell his car fast. How often does that happen?

[Crazy Larry]

If the body is truly straight and there's really no rust I would say that price is not out of line. After learning what it takes to get these things whipped into shape I would pay that much for that car if it's as he says it is. Having said that I don't think it's in as good of shape as he thinks it is based on what I'm seeing. His picture collection is less than revealing so it's hard to tell.

It doesn't appear to be an R/T or special edition fo some kind - so with that price you should have an engine. And for the most part it doesn't even look like all the parts are there - I don't see the front valence or bumper. And he doesn't even show you the back end so I assume that is just as incomplete. He says all the parts are there to be given to you but what condition were they in, not to mention the interior.

Vehicle Description 

This 1969 Charger Was a running car when it was taken down for restoration.  The body was stripped by the body shop and any rust repairs needed were completed, done right with NO BONDO.  The car is now DEAD STRAIGHT with NO RUST.  The car is currently in two part primer.

I'm not so sure about that - if you look at the close-ups of the fender edges, behind trim of rear drivers side window, inside engine bay - there are rust spots.

I didn't see the "offered" part when I originally posted, howvere there are no photos of the pulled engine. Did he cover it in plastic or is it sitting inthe corner covered by debris?  I still stand by that there is quite a few more thousands that need to be put into this. Seems that there are better buys for that type of cash.

[Troy]

And think about this. If you look you'll notice that there aren't very many $17k Chargers out there. Most are either $8k or $25k+ because you're seling either a project or a finished project. Few people want anything in-between because you're basically looking at doing a complete restoration on anything that hasn't been restored or was restored several years ago. You'd be very hard-pressed to find a 2nd Charger worth buying for $17k unless you found an emergency sale in mid resto or happened upon some poor sap with a finished Charger who's in the middle of a divorce and wants to sell his car fast. How often does that happen?

That's how I got mine! Divorces have been very good to me when it comes to buying Chargers and parts. I suppose that means I should never get married...

And yes, you're right about there not being much in between because once you get past the teardown and body work phases of a project you'll lose too much if you sell it. You almost have to at least slap it together and make it drivable to hope to regain what you've spent. Of course, that means the next guy has to rip it all apart to see what you skipped out on so he's in the same spot you were in but he paid more to get a running car. People do strange things.

Troy