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Started by bad88t-top, February 14, 2011, 09:04:19 PM

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nascarxx29

I knew that Ed Wilson would be a good contact.Im still looking at other leads.Did the ad name read as J Marc Waller
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

bad88t-top

I don't know if that's a "J" or just a line separating the car info from the name.    It's hard to see in the scanned image you attached.  You might be able to see it better on the original article.
TX9 70 Charger RT: 6 pack, 4 speed, A33 Saddle interior, red stripe
EB7 70 Charger RT SE: PS, PB, PW, PSunroof, Defogger, Air, loaded
FC7 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, white longitudinal, black vinyl
EB5 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, B5 interior, white long stripe
EB5 70 Charger RT SE: V code 4speed A34, charcoal interior, loaded
F8 69 Charger: Power Sunroof Car
13 Duramax 2500HD: Tow Rig
17 Durango RT

nascarxx29

We got new possibles on this Waller guy Will pm the 2 results
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Let us know if those new leads paid off in finding your owner .But still looking
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BananaDan

This is a great thread as I would love to trace my car's history also.  Good luck!   :2thumbs:
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nascarxx29

Was it advertised in hemming or newspaper .Sometime you can track from there.Or what dealer and state .www.maxwedge.com has a dealership data base.My girlfriend pro genelogist that does family ancestory historys .I get her to find me past owners
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BananaDan

Thanks nascarxx29,
I don't want to hijack Bill's thread anymore than I have already.  I have a thread in this forum area about my search for my car's history here.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,78768.0.html

I bought her on autotrader.com back in 1999 but was wondering about her history before then.  She came with no paperwork.  PM me, or let's chat in my thread.  Thanks!

BTW, Bill, I think I met you in Carlisle last year?  You were hanging under a tent with Bill Fahey, your cars were parked next to each other I think?  I recall you saying you and your brother used to ride in that car in car seats when you were kids.  I was there on Saturday and came through the registry/1970 area to say hi to everyone after my swap meet shopping fest.  I was the big guy in the bright orange t-shirt that said Beat 'Nova.  I think you were there with your brother?  I was taking pics of everyone's cars for resto details for my ride.  Nice work, great car and I'm glad to see the progress you've made on tracing your car's history.   :cheers:

I have a picture of my son in the back of my Charger from last fall in his car seat.  I'll post it tonight, I hope he can one day tell stories about my car the way you can about your dad.

Dan
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bad88t-top

Hi guys,
I have an update.   With the help from nascarxx29 I was able to obtain the name of the previous owner, Marc Waller from VA.  So, I googled the name and came up with a few hits so over a 3 week period I got in touch with each of them.  Finally yesterday at lunch I was able to talk to the previous owner, Marc Waller.  He remembered the car well.   He was 29 years old when he sold the car and it was sold because at the time he was starting a business, getting married, building a house, and he also had a new 78 Z28 Camaro and a 70 Challenger RT vert.   One had to go so since he had the Charger for 3 years it was the Chargers turn.  He purchased the Charger in 1975 from the original owner who worked at a local Chevy/Pontiac/Caddilac dealer in Lynchburg.  It's actually the same guy he ordered his Z28 from.   He actually lived in Pittsburgh for a short time so he knows my area well.   He said he has a folder of documentation on the car including several pictures, receipts, literature, bill of sale, and characteristics of the car.   He did this with every car he owned back then and he said he use to buy and sell lots of cars to make a few extra bucks back then.   When he sold the Charger he ended up buying an Orange Boss 302 Mustang so this guy is a car nut.    To this day he still owns his fathers 68 Charger, 318 car along with a few Porsche's.
He also said he had a few deals with Ed Wilson, the gentlemen I spoke to a few weeks ago that use to advertise many 6 pack and 4 speed chargers back in the 70's and 80's.  Unfortunately Ed didn't remember Marc but they live only a few miles from 1 another.  I'll be sure to keep everyone on the board updated as I continue my search.
TX9 70 Charger RT: 6 pack, 4 speed, A33 Saddle interior, red stripe
EB7 70 Charger RT SE: PS, PB, PW, PSunroof, Defogger, Air, loaded
FC7 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, white longitudinal, black vinyl
EB5 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, B5 interior, white long stripe
EB5 70 Charger RT SE: V code 4speed A34, charcoal interior, loaded
F8 69 Charger: Power Sunroof Car
13 Duramax 2500HD: Tow Rig
17 Durango RT

nascarxx29

Glad to hear you got additional documentation.Very Cool
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BananaDan

Awesome news, congrats.  Here's two pictures of my boy in my car last fall on our first family cruise.  He's definitely got Mopar in his blood, the rumble of my 440 big block put him to sleep!

Dan

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bad88t-top

OK everyone, I have an update.    I've been speaking with Marc Waller on a regular basis and today I finally received my package from him which contained the following.
6 color photo's of the charger from 1970 to 1976
10 black and white photo's of the R/T  from the same time frame
Original 70 Charger brochure that he received when he purchased the RT
Original Dodge sales brochure he received at the same time, covers all Dodge models
1970 Muscle Car magazine with a 4 page article on the 70 Charger
Bill of Sale
Down Payment Receipt
Jegs receipt for carb, intake, ignition from 1974:

He's a great guy and I'm trying to talk him into coming to Carlisle this year.    Later
TX9 70 Charger RT: 6 pack, 4 speed, A33 Saddle interior, red stripe
EB7 70 Charger RT SE: PS, PB, PW, PSunroof, Defogger, Air, loaded
FC7 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, white longitudinal, black vinyl
EB5 70 Charger RT: 440 4 speed, Dana, B5 interior, white long stripe
EB5 70 Charger RT SE: V code 4speed A34, charcoal interior, loaded
F8 69 Charger: Power Sunroof Car
13 Duramax 2500HD: Tow Rig
17 Durango RT

BananaDan

Awesome news!  Congrats.  I hope to get there one day.

Dan
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Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.  ~A. Einstein

472 R/T SE

Cute kid Dan.   :2thumbs:

My daughter was barely 6 months old when I put her in the back of my blue Charger.  The show was about 5 miles away.  According to one of my buddies my car was talked about quite a bit for being a beautiful Charger with a car seat in back.

Remember years ago when all we had was Hemmings for classics all over the country?  Even before the Classic Auto Trader.  We'd wait close to two months some times to have our ride listed in Hemmings.  Now we can list a car & have the money in our account in an hour's time.   :D


My car's previous owner bought it from Chuck Hoffman & all he remembers is it came from California.   :shruggy:
Congrats to you guys' for being able to dig up po's.  :2thumbs:

nascarxx29

Got busy and wanted to check back Bill .And see what new developments transpired since feb
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

RTDaddy

Quote from: bad88t-top on February 19, 2011, 08:25:45 PM
OK guys,   I haven't had much luck yet on contacting Marc Waller yet but I did talk to Ed Wilson today.   WHat a great guy, I'm actually going to hook up with him this year at Carlisle.   Anyhow, he's going to take a look locally since my car was purchased about 10 miles from his shop.   For those of you that don't know Ed, he has a used car lot and repair shop in Lynchburg VA and he's flipped over a hundred of chargers over the years, several of them being 70 V-code cars and Superbirds.  It's funny because I was telling this to my dad and my dad remembers talking to him about a sublime V-code car back in 78 but he passed on it because it was an automatic. He's also the one selling the yellow hardtop V-code car in the add posted above.  Pretty cool.   He said back in the late 70's and early 80's he was finding these for $3K then selling them for $6.  Pretty crazy what inflation has done to these cars now.   He's 80 something now but he was a pleasure to talk to on the phone.
I'm now continuing my search but I'm having a hard time finding a Marc Waller as well, that's the name that was in the Hemmings add.   Let me know if you find anything.

-Thanks, Bill

Bill,
I think I know your Marc Waller.  PM me.
"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."

bill440rt

Not sure how this thread slipped by, Bill. That is so awesome! What a great paper trail, hope you solve the puzzle.  :2thumbs:

I "stumbled" on finding the original owner of my '70 by just doing a Google search. He was the first number I contacted & I got lucky. I thought the search would be hopeless, rumor had it that he was 55 years old when he ordered my car. Turns out he was only in his mid-30's!
We've spoken quite frequently, & was elated to hear his old Charger still existed & is now well cared for. We've become good friends & pen pals now. Great guy.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

TUFCAT

Quote from: bill440rt on April 23, 2012, 07:48:23 PM
Not sure how this thread slipped by, Bill. That is so awesome! What a great paper trail, hope you solve the puzzle.  :2thumbs:

I "stumbled" on finding the original owner of my '70 by just doing a Google search. He was the first number I contacted & I got lucky. I thought the search would be hopeless, rumor had it that he was 55 years old when he ordered my car. Turns out he was only in his mid-30's!
We've spoken quite frequently, & was elated to hear his old Charger still existed & is now well cared for. We've become good friends & pen pals now. Great guy.

I agree. Very cool stuff!  :cheers:

nascarxx29

Bill while digging up a daytona ad recently Marc Waller also had a 71 Challenger ad has his number
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701