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Wow. Retro is definitely in the air. "08 Camaro concept for Detroit AS......>>>

Started by Johnny SixPack, January 08, 2006, 12:53:47 AM

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hemihead

Quote from: Shakey on January 11, 2006, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: formula_440 on January 11, 2006, 12:14:47 AM

Retro sells, that's a given.

Retro has been in for quite some time (clothes, music, design) and just now are the 'American' auto manufacturers really ramping up to milk this tide of memory.


I wonder if retro porn would do well?   :scratchchin:
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69_500

Well I personaly like the retro look of both cars. I don't like the front end of the Camaro though, but then again I could personally care less what GM is doing to their own cars. I wish the Charger was a 2 door, but then again I do like the body lines of the car they made. And as far as the Charger not holding a candle to the other cars on the market, I disagree. It blows all the competition away. How many other 4 door, RWD, V8 powered cars are there out there? How long did Mopar fans beg for a RWD V8 powered car? Now they make one and we still cry? What is your guys deal.

Brock Samson

 That's true man, but...,
your forgetting or ignoring the fact that the Charger has traditionally been known (japan sourced,front drive 4 cyl. and the luxo barge Cordoba/monte Carlo twin outstanding),..
  as a high performance, Personal Luxury, two door Hardtop with exceptionaly streamlined - race inspired styling.












  I dont belive some people lose sight of the "HARDTOP" that defines a real charger,..








  (plus this new one is a severe dissapointment after the '99 4-dr. concept at least in my mind
think about it, Stupid DCX was showing the sleek '99 Concept alongside the best Chargers in the country just a couple Mos. prior to the "Creeder Blunderbuss").




And BTW:
On the subject of Daily Drivers?..
I like my four door 6 cyl. '99 300 M. alot better then the '06 Charger R/T , Magnum and 300 touring I've test driven. dispite the name,.. which also belongs on a Twodoor HARDTOP, "Gentleman's Express "because "Stylisticly" it's a Very "Sweet" car  :-* that gets admiring looks and comments nearly everyday in '06...
Inna couple or a few years, maybe I'll buy another Lease Return for a newer D.D. but at this point, im in no hurry to replace my LH with a LX.
  Maybe when that rolls around ill be a bit more "Mature" and want a more upright seating position...
  but, I can positivly assure you it wont be a "Pimperial"...   :puke:
 


hemihead

Why is it that the fact that GM secretly crept off in the middle of the night and made a deal to build these things in China never come to light here?I know I'll hear about Mopar and Mexico and Canada but that was no secret and is always mentioned .Then GM goes to bed with China for the Camaro and the Chevy faithful have no problem with that.Just food for thought.
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ChargerBill

Quote from: hemihead on January 11, 2006, 11:03:15 PM
Why is it that the fact that GM secretly crept off in the middle of the night and made a deal to build these things in China never come to light here?I know I'll hear about Mopar and Mexico and Canada but that was no secret and is always mentioned .Then GM goes to bed with China for the Camaro and the Chevy faithful have no problem with that.Just food for thought.

Where can I find info on this GM/China deal? Any links?

Also, I have owned Datsun, Nissan, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Studebaker, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep and Plymouth. If you want to own only one brand of car out of all in the world, fine...but why expect everyone else to do so? To say that one brand is superior in every respect to another is not only false, but IMO also narrow minded.
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CFMopar

Quote from: ChargerBill on January 12, 2006, 02:43:16 AM
To say that one brand is superior in every respect to another is not only false, but IMO also narrow minded.

Gotta agree with that. If its a good car its a good car regardless of who builds it. I've owened 3 cars so far. 1st was my charger 2nd was a 89 grand prix beater and then I bought my 96 xj. But I was really close to buying a 9c1 caprice  for a beater which would've been fun to.

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ChargerBill

I've been looking and cannot find anything about the Camaro being built in China. hemihead, do you have a link?

All I found was this article:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060106/BUSINESS01/601060316 - Detroit Free Press

GM's surge is significant because the Asian nation represents the fastest-growing market in the world. Although GM sells far more cars and trucks in the United States -- 4.5 million last year -- some experts expect China and its 1.3 billion citizens to become the biggest buyers of new vehicles over the next 20 years.

GM is counting on Chinese sales to continue to grow as it fights for U.S. sales and struggles to pay mounting pension and health care costs promised American workers.


also, this isn't NEW news...1997:

GM entered China in earnest in 1997 when it formed a joint venture with Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp

and this sounds like the vehicles MADE there are being SOLD there:

GM's sales in 2005 included more than 330,000 mini-vehicles built in a joint venture with Shanghai Automotive and Wuling Motor.

and THIS is very telling - every automaker?...

GM's lead in China is far from secure, said CSM's Robinet. Every major automaker is investing in China, angling for new customers in an increasingly competitive automotive industry.

So apparently it isn't ONLY GM, but "every major automaker"...even DCX. IMO it would be sheer stupidity that would keep a corporation out of a booming economy like Chinas. How can we point fingers at them for doing so when their survival as a viable corporate entity is on the line and we have repeatedly stated that expect them to stay in business? We can't...
Life is a highway...

Brock Samson


  My understanding is that GM began manufacturing Buicks in China about four yrs. ago. I have read more Buicks are now made there then in America, and I know the Colorado and it's siblings are powered by engines built there...

The Chinese market is so big and growing so fast there is tremendous compitition among all the worlds' automakers to take advantage of that potental and the cheap labor...

Charger_Fan

I fear that "cheap labor" is going to end up a high price before the next decade is through. The whole thing's just sad to me, how our "big 3" went from being what they were, to what they are now...same with most everything else these days, though. :rotz:
Sometimes it seems that this whole global economy thing is just a huge growing snowball heading toward a wall. One day it's bound to go SPLAT!

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CaptMarvel

I guess if I hadnt seen the new proposed Challenger I might feel a little different. This Camaro leaves alot to be desired, the front end is just funky & unnattractive as is the rear end. I see some potential, but man, that new Challenger just makes everything else look like crap!

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hemihead

It's the dying Goonie Bird on the hood! LOL.Every teenage jock's wet dream was to own a Camaro or Firebird. LOL.  :devil:
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Paul G

I would like to see the screaming chicken again. All this retro talk gives me a thought. Hollywood is remaking everything from the past. All the movies and TV shows that were hits long ago are being remade. I guess the car company's are in on it to.
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hemihead

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The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

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sixpack70

Living here in korea, I see a lot of familiar cars. Ever heard of the daewoo lemans? Its a junk pile car. I see sedans that look suprisingly familar like the aveo, sedans and such. Maybe it was not china and in fact korea you thought GM was having cars built? Hyubdai is coming out with a rwd v-8 sedan in a few years, maybe thats the new camaro?
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