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Started by Richard Cranium, April 12, 2011, 08:23:37 PM

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QuoteEmpires have a habit of doing this.  Military expansion works great to grow the empire's wealth and power at first.  But diminishing returns from continued expansion --> borrowing money from other nations -->  currency inflation to reduce the value of the debt -->  crumbling empire.

If by this you mean to compare to the US, we pretty much stopped expanding by use of military force 100+/- years ago. Sure we go out and sack some helpless place every now and then, or have a show of force, but after we romp around and give a few speeches, we leave.
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I've said it at least a hundred times. Since 9/11, this country has really gone to shit. Bush couldn't run his college education, ran his baseball team into the ground and then took over the country with his poor decisions. Obama was handed this disaster and it's now a runaway train.
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Quote from: Hissing Cobra on April 14, 2011, 10:19:06 PM
I've said it at least a hundred times.

Not here, unless you said it twice per post.

Also, according to JK we only bash Democrats here so you're outta line. :slap:

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Empires have a habit of doing this.  Military expansion works great to grow the empire's wealth and power at first.  But diminishing returns from continued expansion --> borrowing money from other nations -->  currency inflation to reduce the value of the debt -->  crumbling empire.

If by this you mean to compare to the US, we pretty much stopped expanding by use of military force 100+/- years ago. Sure we go out and sack some helpless place every now and then, or have a show of force, but after we romp around and give a few speeches, we leave.


We've just perfected the art of indirectly "conquering" a country without ostensibly doing so.  We have military bases all over the world and we exert control over politics & economies in many of those same places.  When far-future history students are learning about the American empire, their textbook maps of our territory will have a lot more areas highlighted than just the 50 states on our flag.    

Our powers peaked in WWII and the early Cold War era.