413 question

[skeets 66]

I am looking at a few different things for my 66 charger...found a great running 413 out of a motor home...has 41,000 miles. Would this be an ok motor for the charger ? I have been told it will fit but would need a different oil pan,,is this true ?? I'm not looking at a show car or anything like that,,,,,just something to put in the car and drive around. My wife is watching my cash going in so not a ton to spend..I have a 361 that came out of the car,,,but it's seen it better days. any input from you guys would be great

I have looked at a few running 440's,,,just can't fit it in the money plans right now

Thanks
Jeff
Pittsburgh Pa

[Cooter]

Gotta watch those Motorhome 413's...Some came through with "Truck" heads and the entire top end is different from a "car", or "normal" 413/440....Yes, a "truck" oil pan has a REAR sump and pick-up...You will need to swap it for a "Car" oil pan and pick-up...
Beyond that, the 413 is a VERY expensive engine to get performance pistons for...For the same size and weight, a 440 is a better choice..It isn't a BAD engine, but if it needs a rebuild, you will spend money...

[greenpigs]

If it is in good running shape I wouldn't think twice about using it but like said if a rebuild was needed I would use that $ too get a 440.

[ITSA426]

No replacement for displacement.  I think you can use the stuff off your 361 to make it fit, but it could get expensive.

[Rallyecharger]

Check out the motor while it is running in the motorhome,
compression test,oil pressure test....look/listen for anything weird.
Generally speaking, motorhome mileage is hwy trips and not beaten on like the muscle car stuff....and usually the motorhomes have a good maintainence history.

[440]

Tell your wife you need more money.... 

[daveco]

If the water pump is up about even with the carb, it's an industrial/truck/motorhome specific engine. like Cooter says, good engine, but not for a Charger.

[ACUDANUT]

Run...They are slow torque pigs.

[skeets 66]

i have a 318 and a 361,,,,,matbe i should just stick with one of those 

[ACUDANUT]

Find a 383 or 440 (not out of a motorhome or truck) Be patient and find a good running one cheap.

[Cooter]

Agreed, plenty of 440's out there...There's a reason people are selling Motorhome/truck 413/440's cheap...

[greenpigs]

So can the water pump housing be swaped for a passenger car one or is the block different? I have heard about the larger water collant passages in the block & heads but never seen a complete RV motor.

[ITSA426]

Looking at your first post Jeff, and if you are thinking about keeping the 361, why not look for a MOPAR dual quad set up?  Lots of fun, it's different, and it all bolts to a 383 if you ever think the 361 needs a rebuild.

[Kern Dog]

Motor home engines with the high mount water pump are nothing to be scared of.
You have to change a few things, but what the heck... we are all "hands on" guys here, right? The DOWNside to any motorhome mill is the LOW compression, wth many being in the 7 to 1 range. A low mileage, good running  MH 413 would outrun a 318 or 361. It may not be worth the expense to REbuild a 413 since decent high compression pistons are NOT "on the shelf" pieces. Sure, Diamond or Ross could possibly bang out a set for you, but be prepared with a tube of Preparation H.
I have a 53,000 mile MH 440 in my '74 Truck. Great oil pressure, no oil burning and decent power.

[ACUDANUT]

To answer your question, just remove the high/tall water pump housing and bolt your 361 onto the 413.