Anyone here have an a833 OD bihind a small block?

[68corazonetR/T]

Are they hard to find and what's it like putting them into a B-body.

[A383Wing]

A friend of mine had one behind his Hemi 'Bird when we went to Talladega....pretty straight forward install,...remove standard A833 trans, install OD trans, must make sure that the front input shaft cover is the same size as the opening of bellhousing. After install, I think ya gotta flip the shift levers 180* to make your shifter work correctly

make sure your clutch disc is the 23 spline for OD trans

[elacruze]

The only difference in fitment is that the front bearing retainer is larger on the O/D trans and you'll need to make it smaller or bore the bellhousing. I think Passon Performance and possibly Brewer's sell O/D bearing retainers in a smaller diameter.
The 3-4 lever is already flipped 180* on the O/D trans. Just attach your lever as you would on any a833.

[Rolling_Thunder]

yep - pretty basic -----   had one behind a 318...      was not a great performer because of the wide gear ratios - but got excellent mileage. 

[68corazonetR/T]

Well now this sounds very interesting. I like the bench in this car for the extra passenger so I might be able to get away with just putting a hole in the floor ? Or do you think I should get the shifter bump? Other than that, which is easy enough I shouldn't have to do any work to the floor? Sounds like I might not even have to shorten the driveshaft. I would be really lucky I supose if the yoke was the same. I would emagine there are many different variations out there like trucks, cast, aluminum....slant six bellhousings ect....If I were to scout around what models do you think I should look for ? I'm guessing an Aspen. I will do some research and did a little already and think that it might be easy to find one but do you think I should stick to taking one from a car with a 318 or did they even come behind the small blocks origanlly? From what I read so far it seems they were behind a lot of slant six motors. If I found a good one in a truck would I need to then find a certain bellhousing? My main concern is getting the car back together and put some miles on, enjoy it like that for while so keeping this simple for  now anyway is the way I perfer to go. I just sold a 440 and trans from a running 74 labaron for $500. Figured this just isn't pratical for me right now and I really like the way the car rides and feels light with the small block.
Thanks
Jack

[A383Wing]

so..this car is not a manual trans originally??

[68corazonetR/T]

No its not....727.

[Cooter]

Easiest thing for you would be to find a mid eighties Dodge Truck 2WD with a floor shift (O/D) and a 318..The "Truck" 4-speed O/D trans is the same as the B-Body trans, and I even think the driveshaft will work if it's a short bed truck...

[68corazonetR/T]

Easiest thing for you would be to find a mid eighties Dodge Truck 2WD with a floor shift (O/D) and a 318..The "Truck" 4-speed O/D trans is the same as the B-Body trans, and I even think the driveshaft will work if it's a short bed truck...

   This would have the shifter built into the trans coming up through the top? Anyone know the model of the trans? I read somewhere that the truck trans was too big but that might of been later into the 90s. If this is true about mid eighties it should also be available with 360 so a complete swap could make it all very easy.

[elacruze]

The 'Truck' trans is a NP435. It looks nothing like the a833, and has an unsynchronized granny low. You certainly don't want one in your car. The light pickups were available with the a833 O/D trans though. The a833 will have a 'remote' shifter, and the NP435 will have the shifter internal with the handle sprouting directly from the top of the box.

This one has a 4x4 transfer case on it, but you can see the difference from the a833.

[rt green]

i've got a 833 od  out of a gm truck, mid eighties? i think. was going to keep it as a spare, but ya never know. the front bearing retainer is snapped in half anyway, so i'll have to get the car one. this is a cast iron trans. looks just like my 1070 superbee trans.

[68corazonetR/T]

The 'Truck' trans is a NP435. It looks nothing like the a833, and has an unsynchronized granny low. You certainly don't want one in your car. The light pickups were available with the a833 O/D trans though. The a833 will have a 'remote' shifter, and the NP435 will have the shifter internal with the handle sprouting directly from the top of the box.





   Yep....your right.... don't want that in the car..... but it looks in that Tank..... Not sure if that's the trans cooter taking about though.
So if the a833od is in GM as well is it just a matter of getting a bell and shifter ? If so I guess they would be in the same years Dodge had em?
Haven't had a chance to get out to any bone yards yet ....too cold for that here anyway.... looked on line for a complete truck a bit but no luck yet....I hope to find something this way I might get good truck and I'll know what I'm getting if I can take it for ride.

[694spdRT]

Here is one discussion we had on these previously.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,35972.0.html

[Cooter]

I was referring to the A833 as commonly referred to as the "Truck" O/D trans as MOST came out of Dodge trucks in the mid 80's...I wasn't aware of ANY B-body O/D transmissions offered in the mid to late 70's... A-Body trans' were about all that was out there in factory form, other than the above mentioned trucks..(This would be the short trans)...

[694spdRT]

I was referring to the A833 as commonly referred to as the "Truck" O/D trans as MOST came out of Dodge trucks in the mid 80's...I wasn't aware of ANY B-body O/D transmissions offered in the mid to late 70's cept for A-Body trans' (This would be the short trans)...

The long tailshafts were only in the trucks and vans from the 70's and 80's. I don't know the exact cutoff year but I remember a new shortbox "around" 1990 at the dealer and it still had the 833OD.

[68corazonetR/T]

I found a 1987 D100 with a slant six and I'm just trying to confirm if it's an overdrive. Thanks for all the info , the answere to my question is probably in one of your threads or links but maybe one of you guys know if whether the slant six bell housing will work on the 318 ? Or maybe I should keep looking for a 318 model. If I want to keep the truck, besides needing a steering column, I should be able to use the 727 in the truck?

[694spdRT]

The slant six bellhousing will not work with the 318. If you want to put the 727 from the car in the truck you will have the same problem if keeping the slant six.

[68corazonetR/T]

Well I'll keep looking, although I'm sure I could find a bell housing and do the modification to make it work...cause I think my chances are slim looking for one behind a 318 right? Keeping the truck isn't a problem really, I would sooner find a regular 4 speed for it.

[68corazonetR/T]

This guy says someone recently put a clutch in and that it won't engage into reverse or first when the truck is running. once it's started in gear and he gets rolling says it's fine. Sounds like to me that the linkage isn't adjusted properly or maybe the pilot bearing is seizing to the input shaft. Does this sound familiar to anyone, is there something else, some other common problem that these tranies had that I'm missing? He's about 120 miles from me , he's willing to go 1500 on the truck which seems to be in good shape .....but still far to go if what I want out it has problems Also sounds like he's having trouble bleeding the brakes or his master has problems.

[694spdRT]

Are you buying the truck just to get the tranny?

I bought a completely rebuilt 833OD, new in the box Mopar street/strip clutch, and the 318 belhousing setup for $500 last year. With the new clutch setup I figured it was a decent deal. That one is going in my Challenger probably. I think the most I spent on a used 833OD was $200 with the shifter and bellhousing. I have a couple sitting here right now for future projects and passed on several others that included the trucks for $3-400.

[68corazonetR/T]

That does sound like a good deal..... where did you go to ?  I tried a Dodge dealer with no luck, they did a search across Canada.....nobody had one..... another dealership needed a Vin number (which I don't have)....said it was the only way he could search Mopar Performance in his computer. I know somebody running a trucking business so I might have a way to get it shipped for next to nothing.  so if you have a number i would definitely check it out.