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Started by 68RRFlyer, September 12, 2009, 02:00:42 AM

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68RRFlyer

I changed over my points system with an electronic setup from Bouchillon Performance and have had two let downs so far.  First off, it didn't even come with a cap.  Secondly, it doesn't have an adjustable vacuum advance.  All the other kits I see from Summit and such all have the adjustable advance.  So now with that, I need to install one.  I bought the kit from them because it says the advance rate is not as steep as the one Mopar sells.  Well that's the problem I'm running into.  As RPMs increase, the advance it WAAAAY too high and the engine starts bucking.  I can't even cruise smoothly at anything over 35mph.   I know 100% that this is the problem.  I've had to back off the intial timing to about 5-10 before it goes away.  Then doing that, the car just barely starts.  So backing off the advance at the higher RPMs will solve my issue.  So what's the best advance kit to get and are they hard to install?  Now that I have that particular distributor, do I just get one for a Mopar 383-440?  Are they all the same?  Are they set up at a neutral point for initial installation?  Thanks! :2thumbs:

Cheers  :cheers:   
Dave
1969-1/2 A12 Super Bee
1970 Challenger T/A
1964 Corvette Convertible
1949 Chevy 3100

Runner

have you tried just un hooking your vacuum adavance?

71 roadrunner 452 e heads  11.35@119 mph owned sence 1984
72 panther pink satellite sebring plus 383 727
68 satellite 383 4 speed  13.80 @ 102 mph  my daily driver
69 superbee clone 440    daughters car
72 dodge dart swinger slant six

68RRFlyer

Yes I have and that's another reason I know that's what it is.  I want it hooked up though.  The car doesn't run very well with it not hooked up.  Not as peppy it seems.  Who sells just the adjustable advance?  I've seen them at Summit but it seems most are for GMs and 318s.   Could I just get some differnet springs?  :shruggy:
Dave
1969-1/2 A12 Super Bee
1970 Challenger T/A
1964 Corvette Convertible
1949 Chevy 3100

62 Max

Quote from: 68RRFlyer on September 12, 2009, 02:00:42 AM
I changed over my points system with an electronic setup from Bouchillon Performance and have had two let downs so far.  First off, it didn't even come with a cap.  Secondly, it doesn't have an adjustable vacuum advance.  All the other kits I see from Summit and such all have the adjustable advance.  So now with that, I need to install one.  I bought the kit from them because it says the advance rate is not as steep as the one Mopar sells.  Well that's the problem I'm running into.  As RPMs increase, the advance it WAAAAY too high and the engine starts bucking.  I can't even cruise smoothly at anything over 35mph.   I know 100% that this is the problem.  I've had to back off the initial timing to about 5-10 before it goes away.  Then doing that, the car just barely starts.  So backing off the advance at the higher RPMs will solve my issue.  So what's the best advance kit to get and are they hard to install?  Now that I have that particular distributor, do I just get one for a Mopar 383-440?  Are they all the same?  Are they set up at a neutral point for initial installation?  Thanks! :2thumbs:

Cheer's :cheers:   
Before I would start anything negative about Bouchillon,my first question would be ,have you contacted them? They have first class service and products.If you contact Randy directly I'm sure your problem can be resolved quite easily. :Twocents:


Runner

Quote from: 68RRFlyer on September 12, 2009, 10:03:34 AM
Yes I have and that's another reason I know that's what it is.  I want it hooked up though.  The car doesn't run very well with it not hooked up.  Not as peppy it seems.  Who sells just the adjustable advance?  I've seen them at Summit but it seems most are for GMs and 318s.   Could I just get some differnet springs?  :shruggy:

   you do know that under acelleration you loose vacuum advance right?   your car shouldnt feel any less peppy with it not hooked up,  might get a little worse mpg though. vaccum advance should come in under criuse situation not power situations.  but if you want it hooked up thats cool.

  is your distributor just a stock replacment distributor or is it one of the newer mopar styles with the mallory advance?

71 roadrunner 452 e heads  11.35@119 mph owned sence 1984
72 panther pink satellite sebring plus 383 727
68 satellite 383 4 speed  13.80 @ 102 mph  my daily driver
69 superbee clone 440    daughters car
72 dodge dart swinger slant six

68RRFlyer

Whoa Jackson...I'm not bad mouthing anyone here.  I don't have any issues with Bouchillon, nor did I bad mouth them in my post.  You may want to reread that.  I'm disappointed with the product itself, not anything they did directly.  In fact, I'll be ordering their underhood AC kit in about a month.  Matter of fact, I ordered a voltage regulator form them and after hooking it up it started smoking all over the place.  One call to them got me a "Send it back, that ain't right" from Randy.  So from my experience, they're pretty customer oriented. :2thumbs:  I was just asking about who makes a mechanical advance for the distributor that I can install.

That's where I seem to have the issue in that it's advancing too much.  During cruise.  I'd like to back off that cruise timing a bit and figured the adjustable advance is the ticket.   It looks to be a stock style distributor from Mopar.   If you look on Bouchillon's website,  the one pictured and the one they send you are not the same.  The cannister on the one I have is smooth, and not in the hex pattern that identifys it as an adjustable one as pictured.  It uses the Mopar Orange box if that helps.  It almost looks like the one from my stock 383 2bbl to tell you the truth.  Do they make them? :shruggy:        

Cheers  :cheers:    
Dave
1969-1/2 A12 Super Bee
1970 Challenger T/A
1964 Corvette Convertible
1949 Chevy 3100

firefighter3931

If you have the original points distributor for the 383 why not try removing the vacuum can from it and install on the new distributor ?  ;)

Vacuum advance units work well with stock engines that make at least 15in of vacuum....if you have any type of hot cam in the engine it's best to simply plug off the vac can and tune w/o it.  :Twocents:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

maxwellwedge

Are you sure you are hooking up to a ported vacuum source? Anything else will make it crazy.