weight of charger

[41husk]

does anyone know the weight of a 383 68 Charger?

[c00nhunterjoe]

depending on your options and how complete your car is they all vary, but for a quick comparison to my 69 charger with a 383 and a 4 speed with a semi-complete interior was at 3700 or 3800 lbs. i cant recall exactly. next time i go to work with it i will weigh it and write it down. but i beleive the factory official weight was 3850 for the big block's.

[41husk]

Thanks, I bought this trailer that is rated at 7000 lbs but it ways 2100lbs and that leaves me about 4900lbs and I thought it was around 4k.  So as long as that is the right nieborhood I am ok.

[c00nhunterjoe]

if you are over 4k then the car would have to have all kinds of extra goodies on it with the stock iron intake and manifolds, spare tire, and a couple hundred pounds of weight in the trunk

[41husk]

Nope, infact stock 68 383/727 no ac and I ( not due to weight) have an uluminum rad instead of stock. kept overheating and this fixed it.  so I should be good.

[c00nhunterjoe]

oh yeah, i'd say 3800 max

[Mike DC]

   
  Although, if it's wearing enough gallons of bondo . . .

[41husk]

Thanks but not much bondo she was orety solid when I got her from Nampa Idaho.

[41husk]

Is a big block 3rd gen heavier than a big block 2nd gen?

[Troy]

Is a big block 3rd gen heavier than a big block 2nd gen?

Yours probably is due to the 440 and Ramcharger hood.

Troy

[American Muscle]

what about one with a 318?

[c00nhunterjoe]

a 318 car is most liekly a coupel hundred pounds lighter,

[suntech]

I was at the DOT to get my 68 /383 / 727 /8,75 / no AC, manual drum brakes, approved here just a few days ago, and i went over the scale, just to see where i was at now.
According to their scale, including me(190 pounds) and app 5 gallons of gas: 3810 lbs,  with 2160 on the front axle, and 1650 on rear axle. 

[41husk]

I took mine to the local scrap metal place that has a drive on scale, not sure how accurate but does tell the difference, The 68 with just over 1/2 tank of gas was 3770 and the 73 with just under 3/4 tank of gas was 4060.  So Troy was pretty much on the money 300 lbs difference.  I will brieng the 68 to Carlisle.  I am sure the Challenger is lighter being a small block and convertible, but I regustered unfer Dodgecharger.com, I should at least brieng a Charger.

[Mike DC]

It surprises me that the 73 is so heavy compared to the earlier cars.


There's a few pounds in the isolated K-frame but I don't think it would be much. 

A 440 motor should be maybe 35 pounds above a 383/400 at the most.  The raw engine blocks are only like 20-25 pounds different.  What's left after that?  A little extra length in the con rods, crank throws, and the intake manifold dimensions.  I can't think of anything else.



I could see a few pounds in the raw size of the 3rd gen's body, but I don't see it being a whole lot different from the 2nd-gen cars.

[BROCK]

I've never officially weighed my 70 R/T SE.  I thought the title said 4200. 
But you made me look & it says 3800   I know I've seen 4200 on some
ol Charger I used to own.  Anyway....

My car hauler also has the 3500 lb axles.  I've hauled a 64 Cadillac on it
without any worries.  My truck of choice for pulling a load was the real
success though.  A 3500 lb 1/2 ton truck will not do.  A minivan will not
do.  Ah.  You can get by:  But, the patience & caution required still make
for hard lessons learned.  I used a 1 ton van with a V10 to haul that Cadillac! 

The basic idea here is you need a vehicle that can stay in charge of the load. 
Also, you need to balance the load.  If the rear of the tow vehicle is lifted: 
pull the car forward more.  If the rear of the tow vehicle is sagging:  back
the car up.  And by all means PLEASE use trailer brakes!  I don't mind looking
like a dumbass to keep from making the same mistake again or to help another
avoid my mistake!

Guess I should include an embarassing moment here:

64 F100 + carhauler + 27 foot I beams + weird downhill transition on the hyway.
When I finally came to a stop:  I had successfully parked the truck on the trailer
right there in the middle of the hyway

It was not a good day   My tongue weight was all wrong & as I neared my
destination my confidence began to overcome my abilities.  Don't get me wrong
here:  I didn't get stupid - I just got comfortable.  I let up just a bit on my caution. 

They don't teach this stuff in school.  Read back through the first part of this post.

Not trying to upset anyone at all:  but like I said:  they don't teach this in school.

[American Muscle]

I went to a recycling station because they are the only ones I know that had a scale. My 1968 Dodge Charger witha 318 had a 'gross weight' of 3800 lbs with about 3/4 tank and me inside of it. I personally weigh about 180 lbs. I'm not sure exactly what 'gross weight' means but that's what it says. I'm thinking it's rounded up a lot. If anybody knows anywhere in NYC that has a better scale let me know and I'll post up the reading. Thanks!

[1969chargerrtse]

Thanks, I bought this trailer that is rated at 7000 lbs but it ways 2100lbs and that leaves me about 4900lbs and I thought it was around 4k.  So as long as that is the right nieborhood I am ok.

Wait a minute?  If the trailer is rated at 7,000 lbs then it can carry up to 7,000lbs.  What it weighs does not effect what it can carry. 

[BROCK]

Thanks, I bought this trailer that is rated at 7000 lbs but it ways 2100lbs and that leaves me about 4900lbs and I thought it was around 4k.  So as long as that is the right nieborhood I am ok.

Wait a minute?  If the trailer is rated at 7,000 lbs then it can carry up to 7,000lbs.  What it weighs does not effect what it can carry. 

You do make perfect sense - but the axles are 3500lb load capable.  That is the standard.  2 x ......

[1969chargerrtse]

Thanks, I bought this trailer that is rated at 7000 lbs but it ways 2100lbs and that leaves me about 4900lbs and I thought it was around 4k.  So as long as that is the right nieborhood I am ok.

Wait a minute?  If the trailer is rated at 7,000 lbs then it can carry up to 7,000lbs.  What it weighs does not effect what it can carry. 

You do make perfect sense - but the axles are 3500lb load capable.  That is the standard.  2 x ......

Ok so they can hold 7000lbs. You are saying that the trailer weighs 2000lbs. But the axles weight cannot be counted as they are on the ground , their weight does not count?  Thing is this is to complicated to look at that
way. My understanding was always that a trailer rated at whatever can hold whatever it is rated at.  I never heard
about minus the trailer weight.  I have towed many cars with my pickup and trailer and never saw it that way?

[Troy]

Thanks, I bought this trailer that is rated at 7000 lbs but it ways 2100lbs and that leaves me about 4900lbs and I thought it was around 4k.  So as long as that is the right nieborhood I am ok.

Wait a minute?  If the trailer is rated at 7,000 lbs then it can carry up to 7,000lbs.  What it weighs does not effect what it can carry. 

You do make perfect sense - but the axles are 3500lb load capable.  That is the standard.  2 x ......

Ok so they can hold 7000lbs. You are saying that the trailer weighs 2000lbs. But the axles weight cannot be counted as they are on the ground , their weight does not count?  Thing is this is to complicated to look at that
way. My understanding was always that a trailer rated at whatever can hold whatever it is rated at.  I never heard
about minus the trailer weight.  I have towed many cars with my pickup and trailer and never saw it that way?

The axles (like most weight capacities listed for vehicles etc.) are rated for the gross weight of whatever they have to carry. That includes the weight of the trailer itself plus cargo and accessories. That's why I'm not a fan of enclosed trailers with 3,500 pound axles. The last one I had weighed 4,500 pounds all by itself. With 5,000 pound axles I had a cargo capacity of 5,500 pounds but with the lighter axles it would have only been 2,500 pounds. SUVs can be poor tow vehicles for the same reason. The gross weight of the vehicle, vehicle cargo, trailer, and trailer cargo all have to be counted (a lot of this has to do with braking capacity). A pickup truck with the same drive train and chassis typically will have a much higher towing capacity because the truck will weigh much less than the SUV. By the same token, a manual shift, 2WD, regular cab will have a higher capacity than an extended cab, 4WD, automatic.

Troy

[1969chargerrtse]

Wow, I never knew that. All those years and times I towed around big heavy cars, I guess I was lucky. I'm sure they are rated for a certain rate but can handle more?  You learn something new everyday.

[Troy]

Yes, I'm sure there's some excess capacity designed in but that's primarily to counter age and unusual circumstances (and probably lawsuits). Some states can impound your vehicles and issue fines for exceeding the limits of the equipment - even if you aren't driving a commercial vehicle.

Troy