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2011 "Charger" - Here we go again??

Started by FastbackJon, May 21, 2009, 06:32:00 PM

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68RT4ME

 Thank you for finally agreeing "Bullcrap"  :cheers:
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hotrod98

Quote from: chargerjy9 on May 23, 2009, 08:23:41 PM
c'mon, you guys are funnin' with me.... that "photoshop" is a shot of a concept Charger that was at the 2000 Detroit Auto show, it was based on the LH platform which was being phased out for the current LX V8 platform and guess what? it had 4 doors.  The current CEO saw that static model sitting in the corner while reviewing the new iteration and he asked "why can't we build that one"   

The photshop is just that...a photoshop. The pic that I posted is the original concept car that we all saw at the Mopar nats in 2000 and never saw again.
That concept went from a 2 door in 1999 to a four door in 2000.
I just assumed that everyone knew what the 2000 concept car looked like already. Sorry.


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Quote from: hotrod98 on May 27, 2009, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: chargerjy9 on May 23, 2009, 08:23:41 PM
c'mon, you guys are funnin' with me.... that "photoshop" is a shot of a concept Charger that was at the 2000 Detroit Auto show, it was based on the LH platform which was being phased out for the current LX V8 platform and guess what? it had 4 doors.  The current CEO saw that static model sitting in the corner while reviewing the new iteration and he asked "why can't we build that one"   

The photshop is just that...a photoshop. The pic that I posted is the original concept car that we all saw at the Mopar nats in 2000 and never saw again.
That concept went from a 2 door in 1999 to a four door in 2000.
I just assumed that everyone knew what the 2000 concept car looked like already. Sorry.
I saw that car up close in the chrysler plant in st louis on employee family day . I was really a great looking car , and what a 4 door charger should have looked like .
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Khyron

Well, not much more for me to add, Bull pretty much summed up all my feeling's on the 06+

and yes, if it was a magnum sedan, I would have most likely changed my mind. But selling a name and expecting us to line up like lemmings isn't going to happen.


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4forty

not to mention the Durango front-end and Stratus ass-end......at least the gansta rappers like it

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elanmars

a Charger COP car...who would have ever thought THAT would happen....??!

very far from the rebellious hollywood image we've loved of our beloved legit Chargers (66-74).

and I don't know how it is in other states but here in Louisiana, it's not an uncommon sight to see the so-called new Chargers (aka Magnum Sedan) with the blinged-out wheels, extra chrome, obnoxious candy color paint, etc.

another thing-back in the day, there were 4 door, 2 door, even wagon versions of a car. what, it's not cost effective anymore to do that? Charger being called a magnum sedan wouldn't have been an issue at all with us.
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Silver R/T

Quote from: 71 Bee Man on May 26, 2009, 05:06:26 PM


yes.......I would have your blue Charger 4 door ANY day of the week. I reckon they look great. :2thumbs:

Peter

Only thing that's nice about that car is color. Other than that is blatant just like any other 4 door sedan out there. Might as well go and buy 300C. There's many other quality sedans out there and nobody should just buy new "charger" cause of it's sticker. It does not resemble anything of original Charger.
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BB1

Mmmmmm cool Charger :D
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What if you could choose between getting a 2006 Charger with only two doors, or a 1969 Charger with four doors (cut into the side of the same basic body shape)? 

I know which one I'd want. 



jb666

Quote from: 68RT4ME on May 26, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
:shruggy: Tell me again why I should hate my car? This car did not ruin Chrysler. It's one of their best selling models in a long while and one that will continue under the restructuring plan. It's done way better than the GTO which was a 2dr and not what was expected by the faithful of Pontiac. Now they come back with the G8 and what good has that done? Someone mentioned the Impala SS, another 4dr that did well inspite of the fact there was little in common with the original

I do wish it was a 2 dr but I like it as is as well. No way they are going to make a 2 dr while a Challenger exsist. OK, so the complaint is the name. It can back up the name that's on it unlike the models in the mid 70's and through the 80's. Wheres the outrage on those models? This car outperforms any Charger ever made before it. With a few mods, it can nearly handle anything thrown at it. I love my Old school Chargers but this one stands right there with them. It's now been around since 2005 and it's time has come for a tweaking of the design but, don't expect them to go too far with that. It's not broken so no real need to fix it.





Well said, and gorgeous car!! Some people need to step outside the box a little bit. There's so much more to life when you realize your opinions aren't always right  :lol:

And I'm sorry, but "Gangsta rappers" can AND HAVE trashed every make/model car out there  :eek2:

472 R/T SE

68RT4ME, I know I've said it before, but that's a DAMN fine lookin' Charger.

I just hope Chrysler's still around when my wife get's out of school so I can get a purple one.  :2thumbs:

chargerhysteria

Can't really think of anything to say that hasn't already been said on here at this point. I own a new charger and love it. At the same time I think the old chargers are great too. Just appreciate both of them for what they are. Did you really think Dodge was going to continue to build the same car in 2006 that they built in 1968? Come on already. :shruggy:

Khyron

Quote from: chargerhysteria on June 05, 2009, 11:35:58 PM
Did you really think Dodge was going to continue to build the same car in 2006 that they built in 1968? Come on already. :shruggy:

If you think that is the argument go back and read some of the original debate. No one wants 40 year old technology.


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chargerhysteria

Just think that there are too many close minded people when it comes to this subject. Thats all.

Troy

A company makes what they believe will sell and people buy what they like. It's really that simple. I get picked on for not being brand loyal but I think it's stupid to buy something that doesn't meet ones tastes/needs/expectations. When I go to car shows I like many different types of cars but there are a relatively small amount that I would spend money on to own. It's purely a personal preference - irregardless of the name on the side. I don't expect that everyone will agree with my tastes (or decisions) and I'm fine with that. The new Charger could very well be a masterpiece of engineering and an incredible performer but I just don't care for it. An Aston Martin Vanquish could be a maintenance nightmare and a poorly assembled pile of junk but I still dream of one in my garage. I'm just happy that there are lots of other people out there who enjoy cars and like to talk about them and share experiences.

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Excellently stated Troy!  :yesnod: I couldn't have said it better myself.  :2thumbs:

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Khyron

Quote from: chargerhysteria on June 06, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
Just think that there are too many close minded people when it comes to this subject. Thats all.

5 posts and you think I'm close minded? You thing just because I didn't fall in line with a marketing gimmick I'm close minded... so I guess all the people that rejected the GTO where too, or anyone who didn't vote for Obama, or, I don't know, anyone that doesn't agree with your viewpoints are close minded?

I just want to get it straight, I want to understand the thinking and points of view who wish to case judgement on me.


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no, he's right, you are close minded... 













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chargerhysteria

I am not saying that you in particular are close minded, but having read several posts by different folks I have seen examples of it. Please don't get me wrong, in particular if you were a teenager or twenty something when these cars were coming out of Detroit, I completely understand your passion towards the 68-70 years. I just don't think you can use that same argument when you are only a twenty something or thiry something now. Like I said, I am not hating on them, thats whats great about places like this is peoples passion. Peace!

Brock Samson

well the point i keep comming back to, and few if any others cite.. is the
Charger should be a two door  hardtop period.

ds440

Quote from: Troy on June 06, 2009, 09:25:33 AM
A company makes what they believe will sell and people buy what they like. It's really that simple. I get picked on for not being brand loyal but I think it's stupid to buy something that doesn't meet ones tastes/needs/expectations. When I go to car shows I like many different types of cars but there are a relatively small amount that I would spend money on to own. It's purely a personal preference - irregardless of the name on the side. I don't expect that everyone will agree with my tastes (or decisions) and I'm fine with that. The new Charger could very well be a masterpiece of engineering and an incredible performer but I just don't care for it. An Aston Martin Vanquish could be a maintenance nightmare and a poorly assembled pile of junk but I still dream of one in my garage. I'm just happy that there are lots of other people out there who enjoy cars and like to talk about them and share experiences.

Troy


What he said.  I agree x 1000.

I've stayed away from the Old Charger vs. New Charger debate because I've never been able to adequately put into words my opinion.  But I'd like to add that as an Industrial Designer, if the original designers of the 60's - 70's Charger had the philosophy of looking to earlier automotive design for inspiration, the cars we know and love would have never been born.  This new age of 'retro-modernism' in design (particularly from Detroit) is getting old...real fast.  Sure, it brings a fond sense of nostalgia.  However in my opinion, Chargers - and any musclecar for that matter - should be a progression forward, not a regurgitation of old styling cues and dated character lines.  I'm sure you guys have heard of "most advanced yet acceptable?"

However, if you don't like the new car....that's okay.  I don't particularly care for it either.  Nor do I care for (gasp) the new Challenger (too fat to be a pony car).  But my point is: no matter what anyone tells you, design is SUBJECTIVE. :cheers:
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I've stayed away from the Old Charger vs. New Charger debate because I've never been able to adequately put into words my opinion.  But I'd like to add that as an Industrial Designer, if the original designers of the 60's - 70's Charger had the philosophy of looking to earlier automotive design for inspiration, the cars we know and love would have never been born.  This new age of 'retro-modernism' in design (particularly from Detroit) is getting old...real fast.  Sure, it brings a fond sense of nostalgia.  However in my opinion, Chargers - and any musclecar for that matter - should be a progression forward, not a regurgitation of old styling cues and dated character lines.  I'm sure you guys have heard of "most advanced yet acceptable?"

However, if you don't like the new car....that's okay.  I don't particularly care for it either.  Nor do I care for (gasp) the new Challenger (too fat to be a pony car).  But my point is: no matter what anyone tells you, design is SUBJECTIVE. :cheers:
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Quote from: Brock Samson on June 06, 2009, 12:43:01 PM
no, he's right, you are close minded... 

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