Lower Radiator Hose-Does it have a Spring inside??

[71 RT]

I am experiencing a heating problem with a stock 71 440.  I have done all of the normal things, like replace the water pump, have the radiator redone.  I can drive all day at 35-40 MPH and it will not heat up.  Over that it slowly starts to get hot.  Someone suggested that the lower radiator hose might be collapsing on me.  I bought a new one, but wondered if it was supposed to have a spring inside to h=keep it from collapsing?  The one IO bought did not have one, but I thought it was supposed to.  Stock 440 4 barrel, no air conditioning, 22 inch radiator.  Anybody know for sure?  Any other thought as to what might be my problem??  Any help is appreciated.
MP

[tan top]

should have a spring ...... 

[Mefirst]

should have a spring ...... 

[histoy]

The last few replacement hoses that I've boughten have not had the spring inside, so I take the one out of the old hose and reuse it.

[GN]

I replaced mine too. But did not use the spring. Thought that new hoses would be made with better material. Let us know if that solved your problem, then I will replace mine.

[62 Max]

I have yet to see a aftermarket hose with a spring.

[tan top]

I have yet to see a aftermarket hose with a spring.

true not see any
  last hose i bought was  from mopar  , that did not even have one    ..re used old spring 

[68beepbeep]

The last few replacement hoses that I've boughten have not had the spring inside, so I take the one out of the old hose and reuse it.

DITTO

[4aThrill]

bought a lower hose from NAPA it too had no spring. so I asked where's the spring he ran to the back of the store and simply took a spring out of a different model hose and now I just have to put the spring in the hose easy said then done 

[71 RT]

Thanks everyone.  I do not have an old spring in the old hose, so I will have to buy, or make one that will fit.  I will let you know if it works.  I appreciate all of the help.
71 RT

[FLG]

The one i got for my 73 had a spring...guess it depends on the store. Hose i got was made by gates.

[Dodge Don]

Yes the lower rad hoses you get now have no reinforcement spring........I'll let you in on a little secret.......you can get them here....

http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/catalog/shop/item.asp?itemid=EG4761

They will fit a 440 hose like a glove....I did it. Took awhile to deal with the guilt....but hey....you gotta do what you gotta do 

[ACUDANUT]

The spring is just to keep it from getting kinked isn't it ?? If it's not kinked, how can this help it from getting too hot ??

[Ghoste]

The spring helps to keep the hose from collapsing and reducing coolant flow to almost nothing.  It's on the suction side and at higher speeds this can become a problem.

[71 RT]

Dodge Dan,
I took your advice and bought the spring made for the Mustang.  When you said it would fit like a glove, you were not kidding, it is PERFECT!  The only down side is this particular site has a $20 minimum order, I really didn't need 4 springs, so I bought myself a Mustang Hat.  I can't wait to get it on my car and see if it helps the heating problem.  This is why I love this site, lots of good folks who are eager to help a guy out with a problem.  Thanks again Dan!
MP

[Dodge Don]

Dodge Dan,
I took your advice and bought the spring made for the Mustang.  When you said it would fit like a glove, you were not kidding, it is PERFECT!  The only down side is this particular site has a $20 minimum order, I really didn't need 4 springs, so I bought myself a Mustang Hat.  I can't wait to get it on my car and see if it helps the heating problem.  This is why I love this site, lots of good folks who are eager to help a guy out with a problem.  Thanks again Dan!
MP

No problem. It's Don by the way. No big deal.

[smerritt]

Thanks Dodge Don for the info on the lower radiator hose springs from Virginia Mustang. I had the
same problem with my '69 R/T and '72 Rallye a couple of years ago--I ended up re-using the old
springs too. Now I will probably order some srings from them just to have on hand for next time.

Steve

[dpm68]

Good to know. The back of my Satellite's trunk was full of extra parts and an old lower hose with the spring in it was present also. I knew that they were to prevent collapsing, but I'm still gonna use it with a new one. Can you keep on reusing them if they're in decent shape?

[Ghoste]

I have at least once so far, but sooner or later they would have to rot away enough to lose their integrity.

[gasoline_24]

I just ordered a spring for this from the Mustang site.  However because of the $20 minimum order I had to get 4.  If anyone needs one let me know as I now have 3 extras.  I feel so dirty ordering from a Mustang site.

[Dodge Don]

I just ordered a spring for this from the Mustang site.  However because of the $20 minimum order I had to get 4.  If anyone needs one let me know as I now have 3 extras.  I feel so dirty ordering from a Mustang site.

I did the same thing. I ordered 4 and sold the other 3 on EBAY (one at a time)....I made a profit on the whole deal!! 

[Chatt69chgr]

I bought 4 too.  Sold two to a fellow Mopar nut same as what I paid.  Will use one and keep one for a future build.