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Using spray paint in restorations

Started by 69bronzeT5, February 14, 2009, 10:14:32 PM

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69bronzeT5

I could restore some parts for my car but I'm wondering, how many of you guys here use spray paint on their car parts? I'm not sure if I should use spray paint because it might come off?
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1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
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1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
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Silver R/T

You can use it on interior pieces like trim/console, etc.
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69bronzeT5

I'm thinking like pedals and other things like that. :yesnod:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

The70RT

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 15, 2009, 12:12:23 AM
I'm thinking like pedals and other things like that. :yesnod:

I used eastwoods. I think the prep work is more important. The last pic is some clear stuff I used on bare metal. I did powder coat all the suspension stuff that I could fit in my oven. The bigger stuff I sprayed with a gun. I figured the pedal frames never had any paint to start with so I sprayed it with detail gray.
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mopar_madman

I used it on detail items, came out well and still looks good. If you want durability powdercoating will give you that. But for a budget do it yourself aerosol will work, most important is to follow directions on the can and prep the parts well (sand, blast or strip previous finish, make sure you have a clean surface when you paint) I used plasti cote, dupli color and vht. Depends how fancy you want to get of if you worried about exact colors some of the resto places sell certain colors but you will pay more.
1973 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Road Runner
1971 Dodge Dart Swinger

tan top

Quote from: The70RT on February 15, 2009, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 15, 2009, 12:12:23 AM
I'm thinking like pedals and other things like that. :yesnod:

I used eastwoods. I think the prep work is more important. The last pic is some clear stuff I used on bare metal. I did powder coat some suspension stuff too.


yep just like any type of painting  either gun ...rattle can ..brush   ..prep is the most important  :yesnod:
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Drop Top

Rattle can, (as I call it) is OK if you don't mind redoing the part a few years down the road, or if your just tring to resell the car. But on my customers cars I always use a good quality paint that I mix and shoot out of my touch up gun. The automotive quality paint is of a much higher quality and will hold out much longer. I it needs to be not as glossy I use a flatening agent as needed. You can by paint by the pints or half pints and it really is'nt very expensive.

tan top

Quote from: Drop Top on February 15, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
Rattle can, (as I call it) is OK if you don't mind redoing the part a few years down the road, or if your just tring to resell the car. But on my customers cars I always use a good quality paint that I mix and shoot out of my touch up gun. The automotive quality paint is of a much higher quality and will hold out much longer. I it needs to be not as glossy I use a flatening agent as needed. You can by paint by the pints or half pints and it really is'nt very expensive.

yep  :iagree:   :yesnod:  thats the best way  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

BlueSS454

THere is nothing wrong with rattle can paint.  I use it all the time when refinishing small parts.  The only thing I don't use it on is the actual body of the car.  I used rattle cans to paint the frames on both my Chevelles as well as all the bumper brackets, pulleys, engine brackets, rad. support and the attached bracketry.  All of it still looks as good as the day I did it 9 years ago.  As long as you prep the part right, you will have good, long lasting results.
Tom Rightler

daytonalo

Everything Eastwood sells is re-packaged products that cost a Fortune !!! Take the Powdercoat they sell , the everyday Jackass after Reading their catalog would think they make the powder , WRONG , the powder is straight from Tiger Drylac !!! How do I know this ? I also perform Powdercoating at my shop and Tiger informed me about Eastwood .
Case and point , you can buy the same shit for much less , and save a fortune . I own a resto shop and I would get laughed at if I bought there
Larry

Shakey

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 14, 2009, 10:14:32 PM
I could restore some parts for my car but I'm wondering, how many of you guys here use spray paint on their car parts? I'm not sure if I should use spray paint because it might come off?

The majority of the items in the photos in this thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,28517.0/all.html

were painted with spray cans (Eastwood's).  This also goes for the majority of items in the links in the first post.

The exception being the dash frame and perhaps a few others.

The70RT

Quote from: Shakey on February 17, 2009, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 14, 2009, 10:14:32 PM
I could restore some parts for my car but I'm wondering, how many of you guys here use spray paint on their car parts? I'm not sure if I should use spray paint because it might come off?

The majority of the items in the photos in this thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,28517.0/all.html

were painted with spray cans (Eastwood's).  This also goes for the majority of items in the links in the first post.

The exception being the dash frame and perhaps a few others.


What did you use on the dash frame?
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Mike DC

 
There is a GIGANTIC difference in quality from one type of rattle-can paint to another.  Depending on what you buy, it can range from essentially worthless all the way to being better than the legit body shop stuff from a couple decades ago.  The spray can stuff will never have the option of using mix-in catalysts (hardeners) to speed up curing time, but other than that it can do almost anything that "real" paint can do nowadays. 

Body shop stuff offers the advantages of being guaranteed better quality, unlimited color options, and it's much cheaper for using large quantities.  But it's not always any huge improvement over spray cans for minor small items.  (Although if you've ever tried to spray-can a larger item, you'd be surprised at how easily the rattle cans become annoyingly too small of a spraying method.  Even just trying to paint a surface area the size of a skateboard is already large enough to start making the real paint gun's wider spray pattern into an advantage.)





And I agree with the others, surface prep & execution is just as important with rattle cans as with legit body shop stuff. 

Paint is paint.  The rattle can is only a different method of mixing it with air. 

   

Sublime/Sixpack

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 14, 2009, 10:14:32 PM
I could restore some parts for my car but I'm wondering, how many of you guys here use spray paint on their car parts? I'm not sure if I should use spray paint because it might come off?

Is spray can paint the best way to go? No, but not eveyone has a Resto Shop. You can do a good job with spray can paint (on many items) if you buy quality supplies, prep properly, and apply the paint with the right techinique.  :Twocents:
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

Drop Top

The Hardners that can not go into the rattle can paint has nothing to do with how fast paint can dry. The hardner is what makes the paint last under the eliments. Its all about you get what you pay for. Dollar for dollar The cheapest automotive type of paint wont even compare to the highest quailty rattle can. Why in the world would anyone go to all the trouble with all the work of striping, sanding or preping in general and then go to your hardwear store and useing rattle can paint is way beond logic. For small parts and frames. You can buy Cheap paint guns just about anywhere (Big or small). The paint can be bought by the half pints to gallons very reasonalble. If you stick with the same brand the hardners and reducers will mix with all the deffernt colors. So you buy the hardners and the reducers in larger sizes ( Its cheaper in the long run) and the colors in half pints to pint sizes You can even have paint matched and they have clears the dry in deferant shades of gloss. If you don't plan on driveing your car or leaving your car out in the elements then paint your car parts with rattle can its cheaper at first. But when you decide you don't want to look at it setting under a tarp and what to start driving it on weekends then thats when the short cuts start to show. Weather your rebilding the engine to painting even the smallest parts. Your job will come out easier and better with the right tools. You wouldn't torq your head bolts with a pair of pliers or use 3 in 1 oil in the crank case. So why would you use rattle can paint on a car that you care about? Its the smallest things (details) that get noticed.

Silver R/T

Quote from: daytonalo on February 17, 2009, 12:45:52 AM
Everything Eastwood sells is re-packaged products that cost a Fortune !!! Take the Powdercoat they sell , the everyday Jackass after Reading their catalog would think they make the powder , WRONG , the powder is straight from Tiger Drylac !!! How do I know this ? I also perform Powdercoating at my shop and Tiger informed me about Eastwood .
Case and point , you can buy the same shit for much less , and save a fortune . I own a resto shop and I would get laughed at if I bought there
Larry

I agree, even their powdercoat gun you can get at Harbor freight for 1/2 price. It;s the same exact gun.
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1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Shakey

Quote from: The70RT on February 17, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: Shakey on February 17, 2009, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 14, 2009, 10:14:32 PM
I could restore some parts for my car but I'm wondering, how many of you guys here use spray paint on their car parts? I'm not sure if I should use spray paint because it might come off?

The majority of the items in the photos in this thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,28517.0/all.html

were painted with spray cans (Eastwood's).  This also goes for the majority of items in the links in the first post.

The exception being the dash frame and perhaps a few others.


What did you use on the dash frame?

I used Eastwood's self etching primer and SEM Trim Black, both sprayed with a gun.

The70RT

Ok experts  ;D I plan on powder coating my steel steering column brackets and such. What about the aluminum parts ( shift collar, switch housing) can they be powder coated too? I have the black matte powder.
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Drop Top

Powder Coating any aluminum part is a hit and miss situation. Sometime it sticks sometimes it wont. I'd paint them.

resq302

I've used Eastwood paints also since there are specialty items such as the radiator paint (thinner than regular paint as to not clog the fins or block heat transfer) and they also have colors to duplicate plated pieces such as clear zinc, zinc dichromate, and all variations of gray (stainless, cast gray, alluminum blast, etc.)

For powder coating, I would use it areas that are more subjected to stone damage such as K frames, rims, suspension, axle housings, etc.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto