Front Disc Brake Conversion

[metallicareload99]

Hopefully this thread will benefit others as much as I have, I have been following it closely.  I still have not bought a brake kit yet.  SSBC brake kit is looking less appealing, especially if I have to get a new master cylinder for the new kit.

I have been thinking about going a different route.

Option 1:

Buy repro Disc Brake spindles and put on Viper kit from AR Engineering

New disc spindels:
http://www.mpbrakes.com/products/product-detail.cfm?product_id=604

AR Engineering Viper Kit:
http://www.arengineering.com/caliper/viper2/viper_ab13.html

With this master cylinder:
http://www.mpbrakes.com/products/product-detail.cfm?product_id=524

And also I would need the plumbing and find a set of Calipers, pads and miscellaneous stuff.  The big down side is that I'd have to find some decent 17" (currently 15" wheels) as I can't really afford nice ones at this time.



Option 2:

Go with this new Brembo kit and keep the 15" wheels
http://www.justsuspension.com/product/393

Right now I'm leaning towards the Brembo kit with the Master Power Brakes master cylinder and piecing together the rest of the plumbing.  IF I stay with 15" wheels I figure I can get the Brembo kit on and working for about $1,800 to $1,900. 

If I'm willing to go with bigger wheels, 17" or 18", I figure the AR Engineering kit can be put together for also around very roughly $1,900 or so + the required cost of the new wheels.

I know the easiest route would be a stock style single piston setup, but I would rather grow into my brakes rather than grow out of em, and I don't think the factory style single piston setup is all that upgradeable

[terrible one]

That master cylinder for $90 looks just like the '74 Dart master that I got BRAND NEW for $37.

[Shakey]

I did all this research about two years ago and saw many of the same answers here.  I ended up going with the Mopar Action brake set up.

Front
Spindles - '76 Dart
Calipers - '88 Diplomat (Sliders)
Rotors - '76 Dart 10.75"
Brake Hoses - '72 Monte Carlo

Rear
Drums - '69 Charger 10"

Booster and Master Cylinder - '69 Charger Bendix

All new In-Line Tube brake lines and valves.

Just this past weekend the brakes were bled and it's ready to touch the ground again.

I have read waaaay to many stories on here of sheer frustration when it comes to cobbling together a system of aftermarket parts.  I too may have some woes in my future with this brake set up however I feel that I'll be able to figure it out and fix it relatively easily - I hope!

[no318]

I did all this research about two years ago and saw many of the same answers here.  I ended up going with the Mopar Action brake set up.

Front
Spindles - '76 Dart
Calipers - '88 Diplomat (Sliders)
Rotors - '76 Dart 10.75"
Brake Hoses - '72 Monte Carlo

Rear
Drums - '69 Charger 10"

Booster and Master Cylinder - '69 Charger Bendix

All new In-Line Tube brake lines and valves.

Just this past weekend the brakes were bled and it's ready to touch the ground again.

I have read waaaay to many stories on here of sheer frustration when it comes to cobbling together a system of aftermarket parts.  I too may have some woes in my future with this brake set up however I feel that I'll be able to figure it out and fix it relatively easily - I hope!

I agree and am also going the a-body spindle route and the rest is from a cordoba with the big rotors.  Tell me more about the lines and valves from IN-line......please.

[Shakey]

I purchased the complete '69 Charger factory brake line kit from them.  That is all of the lines and hoses from front to back.  There are some photos in here:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,11238.0.html

http://www.inlinetube.com/

Since I used the slider calipers from an '88 Diplomat, I had different front brake hose connections than the factory '69 hoses, so they ended up in the "extra parts bin".  There have been so many questions on this site and others as to what front hoses to use and the only answer was to get some custom hoses made.  I went to In-Line and was looking at the custom made hoses when I saw all their factory hoses (GM, Ford Chrysler) hanging on the wall.  I asked to look at a few of them close up and choose the ones that figured looked right.  Once I got them home and on the car, tested the length from all different angles, they were the ones that were going to work best.

A photo of this hose is here:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,43180.0.html

As far as the valves, In-Line Tube now offers the saftey tee or distribution valve (that is the valve that mounts on the LF frame rail under the master cylinder) as well as the proportioning valve that mounts to same frame rail, about 10" - 12" behind it.

[no318]

Thanks

[gordo1968charger]

what is the master cylinder  to use with the force ten kit?also do you use the factory booster.mine is a factory power car.
i got the force ten kit,but it does nt really stop too good at high speed.
i thought with the big discs and calipers it should stop nearly as fast as it accellerates.

[Foreman72]

its a muscle car man....i should hope it goes faster then it stops haha