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Started by grean_machine, August 31, 2006, 10:14:29 PM

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grean_machine

I am looking for a 73 Charger SE Assembly Manual to assist me in the retoration of my Charger.  Does anyone have one they can send me or know where I can download one?

Thanks

Chryco Psycho

Year One has repops of most of them
Also there are a few companies selling them on disc .....Moparmanuals .com ?

41husk

Ther is a guy with 73-74 Charger on disc on ebay buy it now $15.  I would like a hard copy as well if you find one.  I will look next weekend at Monster Mopar.  let me know if you want me to try to get you one and what you are willing to pay.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

John_Kunkel

I think the OP is looking for the manual used on the assembly line, not the factory parts manual.

I'd like to see those made available.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

grean_machine

I am looking for the assembly line type of manual.  I am kind of new to the car restoration.  Is the something you would recommend? :P

resq302

I too am looking for a factory assembly manual.  So far, no one has yet to make one for the second gen chargers.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Ghoste

I think that factory assembly manual is more of a GM thing.  Can anyone confirm that they actually had asemmbly manuals in the Chrysler plants?

resq302

Ghoste,

You might be right as there seems to be a lack of paperwork for all of our Mopars.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

smokinrt

Quote from: grean_machine on August 31, 2006, 10:14:29 PM
I am looking for a 73 Charger SE Assembly Manual to assist me in the retoration of my Charger.  Does anyone have one they can send me or know where I can download one?

Thanks
I 'm also looking for a factory assembly manual, 1969 charger.  I've been searching for days, but no luck.  If you find a source could you please email me at bryanjs@sbcglobal.net

Thanks,
smokinrt
Bryan

gtx6970

I believe the quest here is for a factory service manual  ?
1973 charger manuals should be no problem finding, 1969 Charger on the other hand could be a different story unless you'll settle for a repop

41husk

do you have a source for the 73 manual?
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

gtx6970

Quote from: 41husk on October 06, 2006, 07:24:49 AM
do you have a source for the 73 manual?

maybe, I'll ck over the weekend

John_Kunkel

Quote from: Ghoste on September 01, 2006, 11:53:16 PM
I think that factory assembly manual is more of a GM thing.  Can anyone confirm that they actually had asemmbly manuals in the Chrysler plants?

There is such a thing, they were provided on the assembly line to aid the assemblers. Rick Ehrenberg occasionally prints pages from the manuals to answer questions in his columns in Mopar Action magazine.

I'm surprised nobody is offering reprints, they'd sell well.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Ghoste

Were they engineering drawings or assembly drawings?  I didn't work on a Chrysler line in the 60's but I have been on an assembly line in the industry for a long time and I can tell you I have never ever seen such a thing handed out to the line workers.  Quite frankly, I can't imagine them ever actually giving written instructions like that to line workers when the whole environment is about numbers and quality is second place.
We have similar drawings at our plant but they are for the engineers and troubleshooters.  I know Ehrenberg refers to them as factory assembly plans but I'd bet they were meant more for the engineering staff then as well.  I'd be interested to hear from anyone who did work on a line in the 60's to see if they had these drawings in hand back then.
Of course, going back to the original post, they do obviously exist but if they were made in very limited numbers it would explain why they are almost non-existent today.  I would also be surprised if they were in the form of a manual.  I'd bet they were loose collections of blueprints and drawings specific to various departments and wherever Ehrenburg got them, they were only then assembled as a loose leaf collection stuffed into a binder perhaps for individual car models.
If they had been handed to the guys on the line I'd think we'd have seen copies for sale all over the place by now.

John_Kunkel

Quote from: Ghoste on October 08, 2006, 06:43:03 PM
Were they engineering drawings or assembly drawings?


You're right, E-boogers drawings are more likely engineering drawings like the ones on this page:


http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/photos-engineeringDrawings.shtml


QuoteI didn't work on a Chrysler line in the 60's but I have been on an assembly line in the industry for a long time and I can tell you I have never ever seen such a thing handed out to the line workers. 


Occasionally you'll see images from a ring bound publication like the one below, that makes me think they were supplied to assembly line workers. These would have been indespensible for a substitute worker who wasn't familiar with the job at hand.

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Ghoste

Any assembly line training I've ever seen most frequently consisted of, "see the one in front of it? do it just like and don't fall behind".
My other reason for thinking they didn't hand those out on the line is simply that there were more guys working on the line many times over the number of dealerships they had.  Think about how many swap meets you've attended and found vintage service manuals for sale.  How many of these assembly drawings have you ever seen outside of Mopar Action's tech section?

Surely somebody here worked at a Chrysler plant in the 60's?
There are a couple of guys at work that I'll try and run down tomorrow but even that won't be conclusive because they worked at the Windsor plants and they may not have supplied them to the Canadians.  Who knows?

vanced54

Was this quest ever finished?  I have been looking my self and have found a few but I'd like to know if anyone else has had any luck.

Thanks


Ghoste

If they still exist, it's the kind of thing Chrysler should be giving very serious thought to assembling into one cohesive format and selling.  I know it's a niche market but they miss the boat sometimes on this sort of stuff.

RD

67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander