POWDER COATING questions

[rav440]

im thinking about getting a powder coating set up . i m getting an old electric oven that my friend is giving me .

what type of powder coating system should i get EASTWOOD , CRAFTSMAN , HARBOR FRIEGHT type im looking to spend around the $150 range for the set up .

how dirty is powder coating ? does it make a mess , over spray ect .

do you spray the parts in the oven ? or if i make a plastic sheeting tent spray the parts and then transfer them to the oven . 

how many coats of powder are applied ?

what type of paint ? EASTWOOD ? other

thanks RANDY 

[doctorpimp]

My friend has a small, part-time powder coating operation out of his garage and uses an old kitchen range.
He swears by the eastwood stuff.  He bought all of his equipment and powders from them.

As for the procedure, I can't help you there - I've never done it nor watched my friend do it...

[OttawaCharger]

what type of powder coating system should i get EASTWOOD , CRAFTSMAN , HARBOR FRIEGHT type im looking to spend around the $150 range for the set up .
how dirty is powder coating ? does it make a mess , over spray ect .
do you spray the parts in the oven ? or if i make a plastic sheeting tent spray the parts and then transfer them to the oven . 
how many coats of powder are applied ?
what type of paint ? EASTWOOD ? other

thanks RANDY 

I have the eastwood kit.  It works pretty well for me so far.  Just like painting, if your prep work isn't well done, it'll show through in the final product.
powder coating is pretty dirty.  you're blowing a powder at an object and only about 70% of it sticks.  The rest ends up on the floor.  You can't spray the powder in the oven as your oven has to be a clean environment.  I lay down a tarp then vacuum up the tarp when I'm done.  Also, every time you're done powdercoating, your gun will need extensive cleaning so do that over the tarp before you start cleaning the tarp.
Usually with standard powders only one coat is necessary.  Some of the specialty powders like clears and translucents take two coats or more. 
I haven't tried any of the other powders so I don't really have anything to compare to.  I've been pretty happy with the Eastwood stuff.
You should check out the eastwood forums at http://forum.eastwoodco.com  You'll see lots of Q & A's and it will give you an idea of what you're getting into.

[rav440]

what type of powder coating system should i get EASTWOOD , CRAFTSMAN , HARBOR FRIEGHT type im looking to spend around the $150 range for the set up .
how dirty is powder coating ? does it make a mess , over spray ect .
do you spray the parts in the oven ? or if i make a plastic sheeting tent spray the parts and then transfer them to the oven . 
how many coats of powder are applied ?
what type of paint ? EASTWOOD ? other

thanks RANDY 

I have the eastwood kit.  It works pretty well for me so far.  Just like painting, if your prep work isn't well done, it'll show through in the final product.
powder coating is pretty dirty.  you're blowing a powder at an object and only about 70% of it sticks.  The rest ends up on the floor.  You can't spray the powder in the oven as your oven has to be a clean environment.  I lay down a tarp then vacuum up the tarp when I'm done.  Also, every time you're done powdercoating, your gun will need extensive cleaning so do that over the tarp before you start cleaning the tarp.
Usually with standard powders only one coat is necessary.  Some of the specialty powders like clears and translucents take two coats or more. 
I haven't tried any of the other powders so I don't really have anything to compare to.  I've been pretty happy with the Eastwood stuff.
You should check out the eastwood forums at http://forum.eastwoodco.com  You'll see lots of Q & A's and it will give you an idea of what you're getting into.

OttawaCharger thanks for the info 

[OttawaCharger]

Randy - Any time.  I've got to admit.  I love powder coating and once you get the rig you'll be powdercoating everything! 
Here is something I did just last week. It took me about an hour from start to finish but only because a brake drum is a large piece and you've got to heat the whole thing up to 400 degrees F for the powder to flow out and cure properly.

[1969chargerrtse]

Randy - Any time.  I've got to admit.  I love powder coating and once you get the rig you'll be powdercoating everything! 
Here is something I did just last week. It took me about an hour from start to finish but only because a brake drum is a large piece and you've got to heat the whole thing up to 400 degrees F for the powder to flow out and cure properly.

You have a sandblaster also?

[OttawaCharger]

You have a sandblaster also?

Yes, I have a sandblasting cabinet.  Pretty much a necessity as the first step in proper preperation before you apply any powdercoat.

[Back N Black]

Nice work Glenn! What type of sandblaster do you have?

Cheers
Eldon

[OttawaCharger]

Thanks Eldon. 
I have the princess auto floor model.  For blasting media I'm using aluminum oxide.  It gives a good "tooth" for the powder coat to bond to and doesn't leave a residue on the metal some some other medias do.

[rav440]

Randy - Any time.  I've got to admit.  I love powder coating and once you get the rig you'll be powdercoating everything! 
Here is something I did just last week. It took me about an hour from start to finish but only because a brake drum is a large piece and you've got to heat the whole thing up to 400 degrees F for the powder to flow out and cure properly.

thanks agian . ill be getting a set up soon i just have to find a blasting cabinet , and wait for my uncle to wire up a 220 line for the oven and rip apart the garage to make room for all of this stuff 

[Bobs69]

Does anyone know where to buy HEMI ORANGE powder?  I've had no luck finding it yet.

[daytonalo]

I have it in my shop , do you  want the Ral  code

[OttawaCharger]

Does anyone know where to buy HEMI ORANGE powder?  I've had no luck finding it yet.

Eastwood has it. http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=15152&itemType=PRODUCT

[daytonalo]

FOR THE RECORD , EASTWOOD BUY'S POWDER FROM TIGER DRYLAC

[Bobs69]

YES THE RAL CODE!  I thought it would be impossible to get that.  Thanks.  feel free the email it to me as well as post it here.  Thanks!

I'll have more questions later, but one thing at a time.............

[daytonalo]

Ral code 2004 is what we think is Hemi Orange

[Bobs69]

Oh ohh.  What do you mean think?  Do you mean that it is close enough to fool mopar guys?  In all honesty I don't know if I've ever really seen it for sure.  It's pretty dark tho is it not?

Another thing, I'm just starting to look into powder coating, there is a place local here that does it.  I noticed on one site that there is a primer powder as well??  What do you know of this?

Also, I'll need to get some more clarification, but the place local here did say something about not being "allowed" to do automotive grade?  Does that have to do with environmental and the possibility that some powders are too toxic??

Thanks.
Rob

[daytonalo]

You only need a primer in Marine applications or any super extrem conditions . There are many different types of Powders , go Google it !!!!!!!

Larry

[NorwayCharger]

I´ve done business with Columbia Coatings. http://store.columbiacoatings.com/
They sell everything you need, great stuff.
I have used their powder and ceramic paint with very good result

[Bobs69]

I have googled it.  There is just so much to learn!!!!

[daytonalo]

You want 39 series , RAL 2004