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Xenon headlight kit?

Started by 2Gunz, July 11, 2006, 03:05:07 PM

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autodynamics

OK here goes the the lights (Kit) is universal i think we established that already. the kit uses hella housings not diamond things from ebay the part number for hella is 71452 i will try and take pics of the hid's not installed in a vehicle, and also a housing. the kits are sold through my distributor and i will try and get literature on them. everyhing sold in the kit is all that is needed to make the lights possible to work. your existing headlight come out put aside the new housings with the bulbs are then put in place of them. in the kit a wire assembly is included which need a input from the existing headlight (power goes on  that wire when on ) and the rest goes to the battery for power and ground and wallah done. the hardest part is mounting everything which all in all should take about an hour. now you have transformed the old 60's headlights to new modern  technology. before any body asks the kit uses less power than a conversion bulbs. it will last longer due to the fact they burn at a higher voltage using less ampage. think of it like a florescent bulb and fixture. i will try and get you pics of if you guys want to call me directly you can 516-225-2735 autodynamics... ask for Pete..

mopar1968

Quote from: autodynamics on July 26, 2006, 01:21:02 AM
OK here goes the the lights (Kit) is universal i think we established that already. the kit uses hella housings not diamond things from ebay the part number for hella is 71452 i will try and take pics of the hid's not installed in a vehicle, and also a housing. the kits are sold through my distributor and i will try and get literature on them. everyhing sold in the kit is all that is needed to make the lights possible to work. your existing headlight come out put aside the new housings with the bulbs are then put in place of them. in the kit a wire assembly is included which need a input from the existing headlight (power goes onĀ  that wire when on ) and the rest goes to the battery for power and ground and wallah done. the hardest part is mounting everything which all in all should take about an hour. now you have transformed the old 60's headlights to new modernĀ  technology. before any body asks the kit uses less power than a conversion bulbs. it will last longer due to the fact they burn at a higher voltage using less ampage. think of it like a florescent bulb and fixture. i will try and get you pics of if you guys want to call me directly you can 516-225-2735 autodynamics... ask for Pete..

What about the ballast.  From the research I've done since this thread has painfully contiued, Xenon HID headlamps need a ballast to create the Xenon Arc.  This can not be accomplished by normal 12v. 

Now, with that said.....like I was trying to explain before, replacing/upgrading the headlamps to a newer replacable lamp design like on new cars is much cheaper and easy.  This would be a good upgrade, more white, more bright system, like the SilverStar series that mid 90's cars benefit from over standard halogen.  In other words, a direct bulb replacement for them.  But, NOT HID or Xenon.

Please clarify more......Here is a quote from wikipedia.org regarding HID lamps.  wikipedia.org is like a dictionary for this....

HID technology
HID stands for high-intensity discharge, the technical term for the electric arc that produces the light. Automotive HID lamps are commonly called xenon headlamps because of the xenon gas used in the lamps. The xenon gas allows the lamps to produce minimally adequate amounts of light upon startup and speed the warmup time. If argon were used instead, as is commonly done in street and other stationary HID lamps, it would take several minutes for the lamps to reach their full output. HID headlamps use a small, purpose-designed metal halide lamp and produce more light than ordinary incandescent light bulbs (including quartz halogen lamps). The light from HID headlamps has a distinct bluish tint when compared with normal headlamps. The high intensity of the arc comes from metallic salts that are vaporized within the arc chamber.

HID headlamp bulbs produce between 2,800 and 3,000 lumens from 42 watts of electrical power, while halogen filament headlamp bulbs produce between 700 and 2,100 lumens from between 40 and 65 watts. Because of the increased amounts of light available from HID bulbs, HID headlamps producing a given beam pattern can be made smaller than halogen headlamps producing a comparable beam pattern. Alternatively, the larger size can be retained, in which case the Xenon headlamp can produce a more robust beam pattern.

An HID headlamp requires a ballast. The ballast converts the 12 volts used in automotive electrical systems to the several thousand volts required to strike and maintain the arc.

Despite marketing claims to the contrary, HID headlamps' light output is not similar to daylight. The spectral power distribution (SPD) of an automotive HID headlamp is discontinuous, while the SPD of a filament lamp, like that of the sun, is a continuous curve.

The arc within an HID headlamp bulb generates considerable short-wave ultraviolet (UV) light, but none of it escapes the bulb. A UV-absorbing hard glass shield is incorporated around the bulb's arc tube. This is important to prevent degradation of UV-sensitive components and materials in headlamps, such as polycarbonate lenses and reflector hardcoats. The lamps do emit considerable near-UV light).

Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps are required by ECE regulation 48 also to be equipped with headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. Both of these measures are intended to reduce the tendency for high-output headlamps to cause high levels of glare to other road users.

The arc light source in an HID headlamp is fundamentally different from the filament light source used in tungsten/halogen headlamps. For that reason, HID-specific optics are used to collect and distribute the light. Installing HID bulbs in headlamps designed to take filament bulbs results in improperly-focused beam patterns and excessive glare, and is therefore illegal in almost all countries.



autodynamics

the kit comes with a ballast ....... you guys are sooo confused i will post pics and it will explain everything ,.... hold on to your panty's pics will be posted very soon.   

autodynamics

here are a pics more to come

mopar1968

Quote from: autodynamics on July 27, 2006, 11:45:32 PM
here are a pics more to come

Well, that answers all my questions........ ::)

autodynamics

mopar 68 i will show u the ballast and bulbs but my car is in the body shop but i can take a picture of a kit out of my other car ..these pics show the housings only

Silver R/T

we should set up a group buy, so that way if we get like 5 or more people interested price will be lowered
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

NYCMille

I'll take a pic of my set-up and post the pics tomorrow sometime.

my69

Quote from: Silver R/T on July 28, 2006, 12:44:35 AM
we should set up a group buy, so that way if we get like 5 or more people interested price will be lowered

:popcrn: I would when the timing is right ::)

For some reason I love these smilely thing a ma chingies  :icon_smile_big:

mopar1968

Quote from: NYCMille on July 28, 2006, 09:26:54 AM
I'll take a pic of my set-up and post the pics tomorrow sometime.

You must be on the 72 hour day program. 

autodynamics

HERE ARE THE SOME PICS OF THE BULBS BALLAST HOUSINGS. I LIKE THE HELLA HOUSING ITS MADE OUT OF GLASS AND LOOKS PERFECT,THE BALLAST WAS MOUNTED UNDER THE FRONT BUMPER AND THE BULB WAS AN EXTRA ONE I HAD FOR PICTURE PURPOSES.



autodynamics


NorwayCharger

AKA the drummer boy
http://www.pink-division.com

Hansson

Me like, can you ride with the headlampdoors closed or will it get to hot?

/Hansson
Sweden. Karlstad

autodynamics

the hid's are actually cooler than a regular bulb... so heat is not an issue

Hansson

OK, thanks
When my project comes to that stage the xenon's are high on my list, (5-6years)

/Hansson
Sweden. Karlstad

autodynamics


sick dawg

Autodynamics have you done high and low beam or does this cause a problem?  Anything would be an improvement over what I have.
Does $ 500.00 get them boxed up and shipped to me too?
Thanks.
Brian

bill440rt

Bookmarked this page for sure. My Project '69 could definitely use a set of those.  :yesnod:

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